GPU’s are a family business it would seem.

Su’s mother and Nvidia co-founder and former CEO Jensen Huang are first cousins. Su’s maternal grandfather is the eldest brother of Huang’s mother.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Su

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    My favorite part about US monopolies is: Even when you think there’s at-least two companies that own everything… Haha, no, fuck you, they’re all in the same god-damn trench coat. Sell everything you own to survive and then rent from us permanently and forever, peasant.

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      I’ve told this story before, but fortunately nobody reads anything I write. I used to work for Comcast, at their HQ in Philly, as a contractor writing mobile apps. One day my boss (from my contracting company) came by my cubicle and said we were going to meet with Time Warner Cable to discuss writing some apps for them. I started to put my coat on but my boss stopped me. We then rode the elevator up to the 16th floor of the Comcast Center where TWC had a suite of offices. This was shortly before the attempted merger between the two companies; I remain surprised that the FCC put the kibosh on it, since the two companies were already effectively merged. I guess sometimes the bribes just aren’t big enough.

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    Well, yeah. There’s a reason AMD doesn’t compete on the high end for graphics cards and it’s not that they don’t know how. Jensen even straight up said in an interview that they don’t compete.

    They’re not even remotely trying to hide it.

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      Us, it’s just us, and not the same kind of fucking… well i hope

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      I tell people all the time, feudalism never really went away, it just became capitalism. Folks try to argue and I’m like “so did you or anyone you know pay any rent to a landlord lately? Interesting word, lord.”

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        Not a defense of Capitalism here, but that’s a bit off base from what the concepts are.

        What you are talking about is general hierarchy of power with large disparities and concentration of power. Both systems are characterized by them. However, Capitalism by definition rejects the fundamental rules that make up Feudal systems.

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        feudalism never really went away

        Eh. There’s a real difference between an intergenerational perpetual land endowment and a couple of cousins who got rich in the same high growth industry at the same time.

        Capitalism killed feudalism, often in the literal sense. A bunch of the folks dropping guillotine blades on French nobles’ heads were members of the bourgeois.

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      Seems like a function of central bank-level investors using familial ties as a shortcut for determining competence and trustworthiness for loans.

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    As an AMD GPU person I’ve been chuckling at the Nvidia drama from my high horse, but I guess I’m not safe either lmao

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            Your government-sponsored Chinese boy toy will be assigned by the agency shortly and will arrive by mail in 6-7 business days

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              I hope they remember to poke holes in the Temu bag this time, going through the process to submit a shipping dispute is such a slog.

              edit: … apparently we’re doing dark jokes this morning. Woo.

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          There are 35 million Huangs in Taiwan and China- it’s the third and seventh most common last name in those countries, respectively (it’s also the fifth most common last name in Vietnam, but it’s often romanized differently from Vietnamese).

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            Taiwan doesn’t have 35 million population, you’re thinking of 35 million Huangs in China. Taiwan has over a million of them too, though.

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              Nope, it’s actually in 35 million China and Taiwan together, my comment got all fucked up, but thank you for the notice, I didn’t realize it.

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      Team Red is not the Nvidia protest option we thought it was, especially since AMD is now a data center-first company too. I bought a 7900 XTX a few months ago because it was the only 24GB card still under $1k, but now the price has doubled.

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        Data centre first company is what burned any goodwill I had for AMD. What a complete misstep.

        Edit - we kept them alive for the last 15 years, and this is the thanks we get.

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          Are you guys just now learning that corporations have a legal obligation to their shareholders and nobody else? It’s literally built into their DNA like an animal’s drive to reproduce.

          Anyone running AMD who made a different choice would be violating their fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders.

          That’s how C corps are designed.

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            They don’t have a legal obligation to their shareholders. This is a a huge lie that is told to scapegoat the CEOs that enable consulting firms to carve up competitors for even bigger money. They have an obligation only to the board members.

            This is an IMPORTANT distinction that is what fuedalized corporate America to such an extreme.

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              Here’s an older article from the NYT that goes over in greater detail exactly how correct you are. But let me just say you are so correct and GOD this is a frustrating one to see so commonly believed.

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            That isn’t what fiduciary duty means. It means they can’t purposefully run the company into the ground. But any choice that can be justified, for example as “I don’t believe this AI thing is going to be all that and we should remain focused on our consumer markets for long term growth” immediately nixes any complaint about fiduciary duty. I mean unless the board can produce evidence that that’s a lie.

            If the board disagrees with the CEO about the direction of the company they can replace the CEO, but again, the board and CEO can do anything reasonable.

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        I mean it’s the same thing as the RAM industry colluding fo make prices exorbitantly high. Of course they’re all going to maximize profits at all costs, they get sued into losing their roles at the company if they don’t loot everyone for all their money at all times

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        For most was it ever about protest? If on Windows where most people are NVIDIA has been the better option for a long time, but if using Linux NVIDIA turns into a headache to get working properly compared to AMD.

        So this is more like a Pixel phone situation where if someone wants custom roms like lineageOS or GrapheneOS to get away from corporate spyware its one of the top choices. Ironic because Google sucks, but other OEM phones and rom communities for it have died out. And same applies to AMD due to NVIDIA linux support being subpar and becomes a nightmare once support drops completely.

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      Anyone who has any loyalty to any company is not safe. The only safe option is to treat companies as your rival. They will charge you as much as you let them, your job is to reciprocate that rivalry by voting against them (and for yourself) and abandoning them for their rivals as soon as they turn on you.

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        Agree, but the way it’s going with bigger companies buying out smaller ones, at one point we’ll be left with no choice.

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        People liked AMD for the same reason people like Pixel phones. Not because the company is wonderful, but the hardware allowing more modification and support for open source activities. And very little options when it comes to the hardware criteria they are looking for compared to those that stick to corporate operating systems.

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      You didn’t ever wonder why they never tried to pick up the market share that Nvidia abandoned?

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    Are you sure? Wig, lipstick, mascara, same person. Have they ever been seen in the same room together?

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    Oooooooh wow that’s the relation.

    I won’t lie this story is straight out of like 17th century Europe lol

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      Not really ! My family is full of musicians, just because it’s an habit of the family. Maybe the technology is the same for them ?

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        And my family is all engineers too. That’s not the comparison. The French and English were always fueding, but French and English royalty intermarried.

        AMD and nVidia are direct competitors. Corporations today are essentially microfeudalist societies without strict borders. The CEOs are the “top executive brass” of the company owners. The company owners, usually the people make up the board, are the top stakeholders.

        In our modern age of corporate feudalism, Royalty is the billionaire class. Executives and board members of publicly traded companies are the nobility. Just like in Feudal Europe, Royalty can have as much power and oversight as they desire, and nobility is often granted quite a bit of power dependant on wealth and benefit to royalty.

        One greater family controlled both France and England. One greater family controlled both AMD and nVidia.

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    Even more damning: Jensen Huang used to work at AMD as an engineer, before he became a finance bro.