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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
currently reading https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.17570
this is PsiQuantum, who are hot prospects to build an actually-quantum computer
no, they have not yet factored 35
but they are seriously planning qubits on a wafer and they think they can make a chip with 1m noisy qubits
anyone know more about this? does that preprint (from last year) pass sniff tests?
(my interest is journalistic, and also the first of these companies to factor 35 gets all the VC money ever)
I unfortunately know jack shit about quantum computing, so I can’t really weigh in, but I am rooting for them to pull it off, because PsiQuantum getting all the VC money ever means AI stops getting all the VC money ever
New webbed brief from Heydon
New artcle from Brian Merchant: An ‘always on’ OpenAI device is a massive backlash waiting to happen
Giving my personal thoughts on the upcoming OpenAI Devicetm, I think Merchant’s correct to expect mass-scale backlash against the Devicetm and public shaming/ostracisation of anyone who decides to use it - especially considering its an explicit repeat of the widely clowned on Humane AI Pin.
headlines of Devicetm wearers getting their asses beaten in the street to follow soon afterwards. As Brian’s noted, a lot of people would see wearing an OpenAI Devicetm as an open show of contempt for others, and between AI’s public image becoming utterly fouled by the bubble and Silicon Valley’s reputation going into the toilet, I can see someone seeing a Devicetm wearer as an opportunity to take their well-justified anger at tech corps out on someone who openly and willingly bootlicks for them.
New Bluesky post from Baldur Bjarnason:
What’s missing from the now ubiquitous “LLMs are good for code” is that code is a liability. The purpose of software is to accomplish goals with the minimal amount of code that’s realistically possible
LLMs may be good for code, but they seem to be a genuine hazard for collaborative software dev
Veering semi-OT: the guy behind the godawful Windows 11 GUI has revealed himself:
Looking at his Twitter profile, its clear he’s a general dumpster fire of a human being - most of his feed’s just him retweeting AI garbage or fash garbage.
Not advocating violence, but Achewood did demonstrate one possible set of reactions to discovering a Microsoft designer at large in public.
this one is a joke, i think. he is definitely on the fashy bullshit though
It’s not healthy for me to have my biases confirmed like this.
But it lets you adjust your priors so pleasantly!
It also means you can update your priors about your own
biasespredictive instincts being good, allowing you to be more confident in literally everything you’ve ever believed or thought about for half a second. Superpredictors unite!
@BlueMonday1984 lol @ “I try not to let [performance] considerations get in the way”
Also why do you even put a React Dev on that task 🤡“I try not to let [performance] considerations get in the way
You could show me this without any context whatsoever and my first thought would’ve been “did a React dev say that”
:(
Pretty good summary of why Alex Karp is as much a horrible fucking shithead as Thiel.
https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/alex-karp-palantir-tech-republic/tnamp/
time amplifying the nonsense around saltman’s orb grift
features a helluva lot of words while at multiple points remaining entirely incurious about the claims it amplifies
OT: just got a job interview and wanted to pass the good vibes on!
Noice!
Tante has a couple of questions for Anthropic:
I was trying out free github copilot to see what the buzz is all about:
It doesn’t even know its own settings. This one little useful thing that isn’t plagiarism, providing natural language interface to its own bloody settings, it couldn’t do.
In the collection of links of what Ive has done in recent years, there’s one to an article about a turntable redesign he worked on, and from that article:
The Sondek LP12 has always been entirely retrofittable and Linn has released 50 modular hardware upgrades to the machine, something that Ive said he appreciates. “I love the idea that after years of ownership you can enjoy a product that’s actually better than the one you bought years before,” said Ive.
I don’t know, should I laugh, or should I scream, that it’s Ive, of all people, saying that.
I don’t get it, how is every one of the most touted people in the AI space among the least credible people in the industry.
Like literally every time its a person whose name I recognize from something else they’ve done, that something else is something I hate.
ED ZITRON
FROM THE TOP ROPE
New piece from Iris Meredith: Keeping up appearances, about the cultural forces that gave us LLMs and how best to defeat them
In a world that chases status, be prestigious
I’ll keep that in mind…
Reminds me something F.D. Signifier said on a music podcast.
Progressives are losing the cultural war in a lot of ways, but they’ll always need us because we’re the ones pushing the boundaries on art, and it turns out, no matter how ghoulish people want to act, everyone has genuine love of fucking awesome art. The true loss condition is being captured by the tools of the master.
this is ridiculously good
Rekindled a desire to maybe try my own blog ^^.
I think beyond “Keeping up appearances” it’s also the stereotype of fascists—and by extension LLM lovers—having trouble (or pretending to) distinguishing signifying and signified.
Girls think the “eu” in “eugenics” means EW. Don’t get the ick, girls! It literally means good.
So if you’re not into eugenics, that means you must be into dysgenics. Dissing your own genes! OMG girl what
… how is this man still able to post from inside the locker he should be stuffed in 24/7
Seeing Yarvin mansplain eugenics really does make one wonder how he doesn’t just get suckerpunched whenever he says anything at someone in public.
Not beating the sexism allegations.
The eigenrobot thread he’s responding to is characteristically bizarre and gross. You’d think eigenrobot being anti-eugenics is a good thing but he still finds a way to make it suspect. (He believes being unable to make babies is worse than death?)
I think he means “mass sterilisation of a population” Vs “mass murder of the same population”, which is genocide either way, and then he would opt for the faster method.
Or something. Feels extra creepy discussing which genocide is better with the ongoing genocide in Gaza.
Re: extra creepy: and also with people their people in power.
I mean I guess you can argue that straight up murder has a certain honesty to it? At the same time that is mainly good because it makes it harder to justify what’s happening compared to anti-miscegenation laws or restricting people to an open-air prison for a few generations. And we can see how that’s working out in the current political climate.
sounds like he’s posting from inside a dilapidated white panel van parked strategically just outside a legally-mandated exclusion radius surrounding a middle school
So, he’s essentially Drake if he got into AI doom
A new LLM plays pokemon has started, with o3 this time. It plays moderately faster, and the twitch display UI is a little bit cleaner, so it is less tedious to watch. But in terms of actual ability, so far o3 has made many of the exact same errors as Claude and Gemini including: completely making things up/seeing things that aren’t on the screen (items in Virdian Forest), confused attempts at navigation (it went back and forth on whether the exit to Virdian Forest was in the NE or NW corner), repeating mistakes to itself (both the items and the navigation issues I mentioned), confusing details from other generations of Pokemon (Nidoran learns double kick at level 12 in Fire Red and Leaf Green, but not the original Blue/Yellow), and it has signs of being prone to going on completely batshit tangents (it briefly started getting derailed about sneaking through the tree in Virdian Forest… i.e. moving through completely impassable tiles).
I don’t know how anyone can watch any of the attempts at LLMs playing Pokemon and think (viable) LLM agents are just around the corner… well actually I do know: hopium, cope, cognitive bias, and deliberate deception. The whole LLM playing Pokemon thing is turning into less of a test of LLMs and more entertainment and advertising of the models, and the scaffold are extensive enough and different enough from each other that they really aren’t showing the models’ raw capabilities (which are even worse than I complained about) or comparing them meaningfully.
I like how all of the currently running attempts have been equipped with automatic navigation assistance, i.e. a pathfinding algorithm from the 60s. And that’s the only part of the whole thing that actually works.
I wouldn’t say even that part works so well, given how Mt. Moon is such a major challenge even with all the features like that.
The actual pathfinding algorithm (which is surely just A* search or similar) works just fine; the problem is the LLM which uses it.
Cringe but my god the horde of buttmad nazis force me to be on weirdo & girl girl’s side
Personally I have more questions about a Rationalist having an anarcho-communist flag tattoo.
anarcho-communist flag, username RatOrthodox, hangs out with eugenicist iq-anon types, somewhere on the longtermist scale. Has unblocked replies from a person who fell into all the alt-right signifiers and who is calling this ‘Jewish’ (anti-semitism and a holocaust joke, classy. If I sneer any harder I will start to look like Scott on that recent video).
It honestly reminds me of the stories you’d hear from like the 60s and 70s of people cult-hopping because the specifics of the ideology or the religion didn’t matter as much as the sense of believing in something. Notably a fair number of those people ended up in evangelical churches and, presumably, maga.
See also how he finds it good that capitalism has no logo, but still desires a logo for capitalism. And suggests others want it too.
But hey, of all the cult leaders in the space, Aella is prob the least bad. At least her cult doesn’t come with a lot of mandatory reading homework.
I see now he’s also got a supply and demand tattoo*? I don’t fucking know. Maybe he thinks red and black is the antifa flag. Maybe he got it for sexy humiliation purposes. Maybe it’s faded blue ink.
Yeah okay. Boring!!! You suck!!!
I have so many questions, stuff like, do you know what laws of nature are? (also, see the weak link between supply and demand and capitalism, various non capitalist systems also have supply and demand curves. “im not economically illiterate, just ideologically”). And 13? Wtf is wrong with your parents that they allowed that? At least my earlier ‘wtf why is he hanging out with neo-nazis’ has been answered.
E: also note the dead plant in the tattoo in progress pics. (An orchid I think).
I don’t know what it is with capitalists and needing to prove to themselves they’re aligned with the natural order. I’m a marxist but I can’t imagine calling the TRPF a “law of nature”. It would be embarrassing!
*
(I know there are, like, dozens of “scientific communist” diamat weirdos, but for the most part they have rightfully been tied to a tree and left in the 20th century.)
I think it comes down to a deflection of the inherent cruelty of the system. Part of the structure of capitalism is that some people are going to suffer unjustly because your ability to get the resources you need to survive is gated behind your ability to either hold capital or provide value to capitalists. You don’t have to look far to find examples of people who are either physically unable to do so or who find that their proverbial cheese has been moved by economic forces beyond their control or understanding, and now the terms of their economic and social existence are wildly different and less favorable.
By comparison, evolution by natural selection relies on having more children than the environment can support and having a significant number of those children die before they can reproduce. This also creates a lot of suffering, but since it’s a natural process rather than a social construct it’s impossible to call any part of it out for cruelty. There is no exploiter, and so there can be no exploitation. We can feel bad for the slowest gazelle but we don’t morally condemn the lion because the suffering it creates is part of the natural world.
Of course, free market capitalism is not a natural process, there are things that we could do to mitigate or eliminate the suffering it creates, and trying to prevent that from happening is morally reprehensible. This is particularly true if you’re in a relatively privileged position like, say, a finance capitalist in a major startup hub or working in an industry that for various reasons has been given a significantly better deal than most working people. At that point you’re either doing the exploiting or siding with the exploiters and actively perpetuating unnecessary suffering. But if that suffering was natural then it wouldn’t be unnecessary and you wouldn’t be doing anything inarguably wrong.
It’s just Jordan Peterson and his goddamn lobsters again.
Yeah it fits a pattern, half of starship troopers is about how other societies had ideals not based on mathematical truths but theirs is (no proof is ever shown). Another reason why I think the book reads so much better as a parody. The Eternal Science of Marxism, but now for Warrior Libertarians (who cannot even fight a proper war, see the whole technodogs thing).
Ok I have to say, I despise aella but as a promiscuous woman I completely fail to see what’s supposed to be the problem with this particular form of play. That people like having casual sex? That they have slut pride? What.
I probably passed the 100 mark myself several years ago, I’ve hooked up with girls with much more obvious slut tattoos too, and we’re all antifascist anarchists. Is this community ok with sneering at public sexuality now?
The only thing I found vaguely mid in that X is using a tattoo gun rather than scarification, branding, or at least stick-and-poke. But I don’t kink-shame people for being casuals.
Personally I like sex work and amateur tattooing better when they aren’t part of some convoluted attempt at rationalist virtue signalling on social media. Honestly it’s kind of weird that you landed on disapproval of promiscuity as the reason anyone here would find the happy couple sneerable.
Not strictly related to the OP but fuck kink-washing sfba rationalism, at the very least the attempted normalization of non-con sex play in a subculture as inundated with cult dynamics as them should be fair game.
I cannot understand the reason y’all find the couple sneerable, as I look at that tweet and see something I very much would have done to one of my partners if they asked, and the language used by the bottom as the same language my partners might have used to describe the activity. If anything it’s very much on the tame side, for our standards. Promiscuity is me trying to understand what is it that’s so sneerable in the first place. Is it just “lol sex thing weird”? Is it “you’ll regret your tattoo when you get older”? Me and my girls have done so much more intensely weirder sex things and more risqué tattoos. I expect to be ridiculed for it by like, cishet right-wing men, but to find that type of attitude here was shocking.
Like, “virtue signalling” as in the thing that rats accuse us of doing every time we have a motivation they cannot comprehend such as basic empathy, right? As in the rationalist’s stereotypically verbose euphemism for what previous generations of misogynistic male nerds used to call “attention whoring”? Is that the sneerable thing then, that people like showing off when they do an unusual sex thing? Because if so I have like, years of mastodon flirty banter y’all can go sneer at, if we’re branching out from “nerdy fascism bad” to “kink on main bad”.
The guy goes by the handle RatOrthodox, calls rationalism his religion in the replies, seems kind of a cult-brained ideologue anyway based on his other tattoos, and went out of his way to make boinking aella into a public achievement/trophy thing.
This is just from the OP, I bet I could find any number of additional absolutely ridiculous things about him if I bothered with his twitter feed (edit: someone else did). Basically he seems like sneer incarnate, and if rationalists ever stormed the capitol building I bet he’d be the one with the face paint and the horned fur hat giving interviews.
Virtue signaling is not really interchangeable with attention whoring, it’s when you specifically (and usually clumsily) want people to notice that you are part of an ingroup, and in this case the ingroup definitely isn’t just people who like amateur tattooing and horny post on main.
Maybe I should explicitly note that unless this turns out to be another aella publicity stunt she does seem pretty incidental to the whole thing and her only fault appears to be being attractive this type of weirdo in the first place, which I’m not blaming her for.
are you aware of what discussion group you’re posting this to
Think you are right, and tbh I didn’t read this as a kink thing but more some weird glorifying Aella as some sort of important cult leader thing (and misread it and assumed it had to do with the flowchart event, and not this (which I should have noticed was wrong as there were less than 100 people involved in that, for which a ‘I was nr 100’ is quite odd to me (and fits into the whole cultleader vibe))). A reason why I only focused on the guy myself.
And you are totally correct that people sneer on Aella way to much just because she is {a woman, sex worker, a bit strange, unapologetic about being a sex worker, has sex the wrong way, {more weird reasons unrelated to her being part of the ‘we should do eugenics!’ crowd}} (pick any that apply). And have mentioned this before in other places. (oddly enough this caused somebody on bsky to just go full anti sex worker, so that was an easy block at least). But yes you are right to call us out on this.
My stance is that I hate Aella because she exploits her life experience to be a disgusting misogynist and it is morally correct to kinkshame unpleasant heterosexual men who associate with the rationalist sex cult. I’m not interested in other people’s hangups beyond that.
oh, no, to be clear: this isn’t about the sex/sluttiness - I have no issue with that at all. in a more general sense (over the wider set of things aella), her positioning herself as a “sex researcher” but often using that to bash specific groups or put out a specific narrative, that is far more problematic
but regarding this specific thing, tho: the “forced a tattoo on me” bit specifically, and all the rationalists doing their weird quasi-intellectual arguing with everyone who asks questions. the “forced” wording feels … intentionally bait&switch? presumably (…hopefully?) there’s mutual consent here, so it’s a fucking choice to go frame the event that way
That’s very much the language my play partners use online, though? I totally post banter like “that submissive was so blanked out that I took advantage of them by doing X”, to which they’ll reply “implying I didn’t evily manipulated you into doing that in the first place”, and so on. This is so commonplace in my communities that I failed to even understand what could be the problem before you pointed it out. I mean, “I forced my famous domme to mark me as a trophy as her #100 simp”? How would you exactly force (non-kink sense) someone to tattoo you anyway, and if you did and were unwise enough to brag about it, presumably the microcelebrity in question wouldn’t like and retweet it? I took it to mean “I was so into the idea of being marked, I’m glad she agreed to my pestering”, and I would bet money if any of my people talked in that exact wording, that’s what everyone would take it as. I mean, otherwise I would probably have been arrested for the frequency of times I say “bye everyone gonna tie someone up and do unspeakably cruel things to them” and whatnot
I think in this thread it’s not “this thing is gross because it involves sex stuff”, it’s “this sex stuff is made gross by the involvement of aella and co, who we understand to have fundamentally different and incorrect ideas about ethics both in general and specific to sex”
Basically anything Aella touches merits a sniff test.
I’m imagining the same statement from a different person, on a platform that is not Xitter, about a sex partner who is not Aella.
(thinks)
Pierre Menard, author of the Kink-ote
Gotta say, I’m not much of a JLB head, so I don’t fully understand this (would love an explainer!). At first glance I thought this was a Menards reference and super didn’t understand.
“Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote” is a story about a man whose passion project is rewriting Don Quixote, that is, arriving at exactly the same text as Cervantes, but from his own experiences. The narrator quotes the same line from both and observes that the remark by Cervantes is empty rhetoric, while the statement by Menard alludes to a whole school of philosophy that did not exist in Cervantes’ time. So, “Though they are verbally identical, Menard’s is infinitely richer.”
I wasn’t going for a deep-lore reference, just a bit of silly wordplay about the title.
This is more on Aella Cult than on her tbh.
And didn’t Aella and also Grimes have a come to jesus moment when they realized they hung out with a lot of bad people. Guess nothing came from that. (That part of them is always worse than these just a bit off antics they pull).
And didn’t Aella and also Grimes have a come to jesus moment when they realized they hung out with a lot of bad people
I would give this at least -9600 credibility points. neither of them are whoopsie-daisy’ing into these scenes and crowds, they both knew what and who
Sorry I was being a bit too vague because I didn’t have any proof ready. But here it is. It is them covering their asses if there might be a fallout, a non-apology equivalent, as there has been no changes or dropping of names/extremist behavior since, it is all just vague vibes.
