Must be nice to be so rich you can just decide to leave.
Exactly, in the article he sees the problem but instead of using his money to help he fucks off to be safe. He may not be an asshole but he’s a a bit cowardish for it I feel even if he can still help from NZ it’s more likely he will just focus on his life there than try to put out the gordian garbage fire that is the US
NZ is where bunkers are.
Yeah. And as a kiwi it kinda pisses me off that we let wealthy Americans in. I’d rather it was a generic visa program than a pay-to-play.
I mean, you can just put boulders over the bunker doors when they try hiding.
They going to fuck you next. Maybe you’ll get s taste of your allies saying you deserved it too. Great time on this planet.
100% I hear you! Whatever happened to Helen Clark btw?
She took a job with the UN in their development programme. I think she took a stab at the secretary general but didn’t get it.
Why does a canadian have an obligation to help the US?
He owns more wealth, property, and control of businesses in the US than well over 99% of Americans.
The most effective thing he can do it take that tax revenue out of the US. Now New Zealand and Canada will be reaping all the benefits of having him there
You think he pays taxes at the same rate as the rest of us losers?
Americans made their choice
Which countries do you think the mess will overflow into first? (Not to mention the ongoing global effects of the US dumpster fire)
Nationalism isn’t a useful way to see the situation. It’s everyone’s problem, and those who have the wealth and influence to help are especially obliged to solve this.
Great argument! “Why should people that immigrate give a shit about any other country than their mother country?” Really good thinking there arguing for isolationism.
He’s an asshole
Oh no, its well documented that he’s a raging asshole. Fuck James Cameron.
Sorry sometimes I forget this isn’t Reddit and I don’t have to take pincers to criticize billionaires
Cameron will be forgotten once he leaves the Hollywood media bubble. He’s never been politically influential, and his short intervals of fame relied solely on 2 movies. But his fame from Titanic and Avatar has mostly died out.
He could always make an anti-Trump film, and have the EU fund it.
“Must be nice” is the comment I came here to post.
I don’t see him sticking his neck out either. I’ve heard about him crashing out that people dont like his blue space horse movies enough. Who has he tried to educate, or influence?
Good riddance, our culture is trash, you helped no one
I also came to post “must be nice”.
Rich assholes
All the assholes who are making the country worse could afford to do that easily, leaving the rest of us stuck here to clean up the shit, what else is new though.
I left with just a few k in my pocket. Being rich helps quite a bit, but it’s not the only method.
Often it’s less the price of leaving and more about getting the new country to let you stay
Canada has a working holiday visa with the US
It’s an open work visa for 1 year, and it renewable. Cost a few hundred between passport, paperwork, and other fees when I did it
It’s available to all Americans without a criminal history, if they are below the age of 30 or 35 (I forget the exact requirements for each cut off)
You don’t have to be rich. I was working as a line cook when I saved up enough to move
Yup. I mean, I get it, but I would not advertise it. If everyone jumped ship, those that simply couldn’t would drown within it, so he isn’t exactly helping the situation. Need every vote possible, and dollar for that matter.
I mean, remaining on a sinking ship doesn’t save anyone else from drowning. Some people have a life raft, I can’t blame them for using it. I would get out if I could, cause things don’t seem to be getting better anytime soon except on the off chance the midterms actually save us.
Ideally, the folks getting away on the life rafts wouldn’t be determined by how much money they have. Maybe send the most vulnerable first, and the people with the means to resist stay behind. But that’s not how this situation works, unfortunately.
It’s a crabs-in-a-bucket situation. Why pull down the ones who can escape?
Honestly, if I was relatively wealthy, odds are that I would tuck tail and run away from the US. Unfortunately, my poverty has backed me into a corner. Flight isn’t an option, only fight.
Yerp, the wealthy are always insulated from the problems they create. And then they get upset when we try to tax them to contribute to fixing those problems.
“It doesn’t affect me, why should I pay for it?” “Motherfucker, you caused it!”
I mean, remaining on a sinking ship doesn’t save anyone else from drowning.
If you think America is a sinking ship, what does that indicate about the continued safety of NZ?
Huh? New Zealand is in much better shape than america.
You let the fucking same wolves in!
Jesus Christ people can’t be serious right now,
Why are you assuming I’m from New Zealand? All I know is they don’t have federal agents going around executing people extrajudicially in the streets…
Via con dios. I’m a blue collar paycheck to paycheck schlub. I have to stay. I have to survive. In the end I will bring a strong back and a shovel to clean up the mess.
It’s funny, reading your sad little statement while thinking about the countless immigrants who left everything to start a new life in America, back before the fascists took control. We really are a sad little nation now, in more ways than one.
I’m telling you that I don’t want to be involved in a conflict beyond my control but I’m willing to stay and work for a better life on the other side of the violence, and you’re saying that it’s a sad statement compared to the immigrants who left their violent countries to pursue a better life in a country with no war?
Can you understand your mistake here? I’m not leaving. I want to survive and use my skills to rebuild what I can after the 2-digit IQ war is over. I’m sad because I’m volunteering to clean up the mess?
He is feeling sad for you, and wishes a happier life, for you…
now the reverse is happening, only for people who can MOVE. like scientists and rich people.
Must be nice to have the ability to do it.
He is literally not American
Yes I’m aware.
There are relatively easy paths out. If you’re young enough, Canada offers a working holiday visa program
I was able to save enough and do it while working as a line cook. The most expensive part is physically moving
We should be celebrating other people leaving. It hurts the regime.
Lots of people left russia before and after the war started, it doesn’t hurt enough. Government was actually ok with that.
I’m about 90% sure they’ve been trying to get educated people to leave the U.S. before the midterms. It feels like some of the disinformation campaigns of 2026 have become so obvious now compared to the campaigns of 2016.
There’s obviously a chance there won’t be midterms but as dumb as these people are, they probably didn’t kick off a 50 year long plan to destroy the U.S. government and overthrow democracy without a Plan A, Plan B, and probably a Plan C.
Even if Plan A is to cancel the midterms, it’s easier to do that, along with a lot of other bullshit, if you successfully carry out a Plan B where you convince a significant chunk of the population with education, money, and influence to leave the country before you carry out Plan A. That leaves a weaker population to push back against you.
It is nice to be so Rich & a immigrant to The USA, so that you can just leave. I been trying to live in Denmark, for decades!
Whenever I see people telling American to just leave the US, I always think “so I have to be rich to move to a new country? And I’m supposed to be a problem?” It costs tens of thousands of dollars to get just the application. It’s extremely privileged to assume everyone can do that.
Back during W Bush second term, I looked at migration to just Canada. It was several thousands of dollars for the application, need to have employment shortly after moving there or before then. Now it’s harder to do so.
THE PROBLEM is finding employment, i assume most people already had that set up prior to landing canada. its more likely if you are planning to go to “school” there , or have a in-demand job that canada needs filling.
rich or have a Phd in stem that is niche, same goes for MDs in a in-demand specialty.
I feel like it says a lot that he believes everybody is at each other’s throats right now.
Most people seem to have a lot less tolerance for unnecessary bullshit, as in just not having the energy to waste pretending.
I think it’s because most people who are aware of reality are also aware that shit is very bad right now, unless you’re a Nazi and it’s intentional. This country is being held hostage by Nazis trying to goad us into a civil war, and it’s kind of psychotic to pretend things are normal.
There are some people who seem to want to pretend the same rules as always still apply, because it makes them feel more in control. They get offended when people don’t play along and pretend reality isn’t reality, but … tough shit. This is a fucking ridiculous mess.
I can’t help but wonder if he views people no longer pretending to be nice about his bullshit as “everyone being at each other’s throats.”
You can pretty easily get a job for shit wages teaching English in Japan, and it’s not the only country like that. You don’t have to be rich, you just have to consider a different standard of living acceptable
What a fucking terrible take like what the hell
Explain. I gave one way that you don’t have to be rich to leave a country.
if thats all you are going to do, and can live off that then go for it. i doubt its the majority of the people that move there though. usually japan isnt really keen on giving much room for foreigners with careers, let alont immigrate there, especially now they have elected a far-right PM.
ITT: People mad that Canadian celebrity won’t stay in the US and fix it.
ITT: People who don’t know that most immigrants around the world are in fact poor people
FYI, he moved to New Zealand.
smart… hiding from maps
I think you mean middle earth, though as a kiwi, it’s not all sunshine and lollipops here.
I’m surprised people here aren’t mad that Hayao Miyazaki rarely visited the US since Bush II.
Not really surprised a Canadian would do that. Rich Canadians seem to be pretty fucking awful.
America was good enough for him to stay and make millions. As soon as things aren’t perfect, he wants to run to where the grass is greener. That’s a good reason to be angry.
as soon as things aren’t perfect
Dumb take.
Would you prefer he stay in the US and continue funding this regime?
Trump cares about money and power. Taking away some money is about the strongest message a non-politician can send. It also doesn’t stop him speaking out, or funding opposition. He can still do everything else
The only real result is that the US is losing his tax dollars and businesses. That’s what you’re complaining about.
He could use his money to fund opposition
He still can. This doesn’t change that
You know he won’t lmfao
He could get out there and energize protests. In the country he got so much out of. While its citizens rot with no healthcare he lived like a king off our labor. Fuck every one of these people.
Exactly, he’s made so much money off the American public and when stuff gets bad he leaves. Normally lemmy doesn’t defend the rich but here we are.
Would you prefer he stay in the US and continue funding this regime?
America will outlast Trump. The Dems need another candidate with the campaign skills of Bill Clinton or Barack Obama to make him and his followers totally forgettable. Republicans will triumph as long as the Dems keep pushing presidential candidates with weak campaign skills on us.
This isn’t just Trump. People want to act like this is one man. The United States does not function. It will not get better after Trump leaves.
The US was functioning fine without Trump. Trump is an agent of chaos.
I don’t really see the difference in general doctrine between Trump and the others.
Trump is just more in your face, but for the rest he is just another US president.
Gimme one that would rediscuss the role of Israel (or even its existence) and who will actually support Ukraine and then maybe we can talk.
We need someone stronger than them since they still compromised with conservatives. We need someone who will control the party with an iron fist and yank everything left instead of just wanting to return to the status quo. Someone willing to tell every Republican and their supporters to go fuck themselves.
I hope that someone is AOC. It would be an extra spicy repudiation to these bastards if it was GASP, a woman, who reformed America and is a central figure in the history books.
The last thing the Dems need is another female candidate. The voters have made it clear that it doesn’t want a female president. And AOC has no international experience and is aligned with liberal agenda groups that more conservate Dems and more liberal GOPers don’t want.
Conservatives tend towards evil or apathy. They aren’t fit to rule, because they don’t want to make our nation a better place to live. Also, that sexism of yours? Dumb. The failure of Hillary and Kamala was because they didn’t offer hope nor change. It is when a candidate promises to make things better, that people get excited. It sucks that evil has recognized this and took advantage, while the Democrats made never rocking their feed trough a priority.
I refuse your arguments, they would just allow the nation to continue circling down the toilet bowl of history.
Man makes his wealth through the American movie industry, leaves when America gets bad.
Yeah I’d say everyone has the right to be angry at that.
Edit: extremists are a plague
He got rich off the back of American Labor.
“At each other’s throats?” 30% of the country is behaving like Nazis, others are calling them on it, and a disturbing percentage are silent. Yes I suppose more people could be silent to help preserve his feelings.
He has the money and platform to speak out. Instead he leaves.
To be fair; famous people usually get shat on (and rightly so) when speaking about politics
Because their “politics” usually involves everyone ignoring their grievances in favor of preserving celebrities’ comfort.
Oh no! Will he cry in his millions?!?! What a poor baby!
He can still speak out just as well
Money is also the #1 thing this adminitration cares about. Cameron taking him money, businesses, and most importantly tax dollars to NZ and Canada instead is the most impactful individual action he could do
Giving an interview with what sounds like a both sidesism is not helpful in a speaking out sense. As for taxes is production companies are still California based and his distributor is still 20th Century Fox.
As a professional scuba diver I think his ocean-related work is much more important than America. Sorry guys but the world doesn’t revolve around you.
Did the world revolve around Germany during ww2?
Your country either has something America/Russia/China wants or it’s trash to these people.
Then he can do without the both sidesism.
Whats irritating about this is not so much that he chose to leave but that he did so while making an unhelpful comment attacking every side in the political mess.
I would also be careful ignoring Trump. As much as I would like to think Trump is ignorable he has nukes and unlike Xi and Putin seems to have dementia.
calling them out, is all they are doing, no other action than that.
No one owes the US anything. It’s not like this snuck up on you.
It won’t be contained so, you are saying you will deserve it when it comes for you?
i’m busy making sure it never comes here. Americans need to own up and right their house.
“Everyone is at each others throats” is some delightful both-sidesing.
These rich “common sense” centrists really have no idea.
“I have decided to go to space and upload my consciousness into a blue alien furry and find a girl alien and we will kiss and it will be beautiful and deep and I am keeping all my Oscars.”
The whole country is doing a Titanic.
What the rest of the world, EU turning Far Right Nazi & no one cares enough to prevent worse of ‘Global Warming’ & we keep overpopulating the world with us & our favorite animals!
Doing a speed run from “I’m the King of the World!” to drowning.
No wonder why he left.
This some bOtH sIdEs trash?
Not at all
Cameron…described being the US under Donald Trump as “like watching a car crash over and over” and said his New Zealand citizenship was “imminent”.
“New Zealand had eliminated the virus completely,” he said. “They actually eliminated the virus twice. The third time, when it showed up in a mutated form, it broke through. But fortunately, they already had a 98% vaccination rate.”
“This is why I love New Zealand. People there are, for the most part, sane – as opposed to the United States, where you had a 62% vaccination rate, and that’s going down, going the wrong direction.
“Where would you rather live? A place that actually believes in science and is sane and where people can work together cohesively to a common goal, or a place where everybody’s at each other’s throats, extremely polarised, turning its back on science and basically would be in utter disarray if another pandemic appears.”
Yeah it’s not as bad as the headline alone makes it seem for sure! Still, weak ass quote. :p
More like- just a rich douche seeing the way the wind is blowing, and is getting out before the guillotines are built.
A quick skim of the article, he also cites how the US doesn’t believe in vaccines and that trump is a train wreck. That said, he did make the quote and is a rich douche so…. Point stands
As far as rich douches go, James Cameron is probably one of the cleaner ones.
He’s still rich off the exploitation of other laborers though
Who got exploited in his case?
3D animators at least
So if he hadn’t made Avatar, they would have been better off?
:|
I think the opinion of those that have worked with him would be most relevant to that.
That’s probably the one area where he comes off most as a douche. He’s notoriously demanding to work with
He also, earlier on, had a history of less safe practices
But I’d put him as one of the few wealthy people that actually created something others can’t. His movies are a creation of his own. Not the result of inevitable scientific advancement
OpenAI/ChatGPT was the result inevitable scientific advancement. The game changer was a publicly published academic paper (by a Google researcher), not anything Sam Altman or OpenAI did. Same can be said about a lot of modern products that created our wealthiest billionaires
His movies are a creation of his own. Not the result of inevitable scientific advancement
Are you seriously claiming that Cameron made his movies without scientific advancements? Cameron used the result of hundreds of technical advancements and patents in order to make his movies. He didn’t invent movie-making.
He’s profiting from a system that exploits workers, opinions are irrelevant
Every one of us profits from a system that exploits workers. There are workers who can’t even get online, they’re suffering more than you, and what little you have is partly due to their underpaid efforts.
Don’t let imperfection be the enemy of good. We’re all a part of a system that exploits others, so that can’t be any useful metric as it paints everyone.
Why would he stay and help you if you’re just going to guillotine him afterwards?
I mean, “both sides” are intentionally being riled up and driven to violent and dangerous rhetoric by one side so yeah. I hate Trump and Repubs but it’s insane the vile shit you see people say. On both sides.
Now where the sides are completely different is that 999/100 on the lefter side aren’t going to go commit violent hateful acts. On the other side it’s a lot worse ratio.
Should note that it’s just social media. In real life it’s just conservatives being insane vs sensible people
Can you show an example of the vile shit the non-conservative group is saying?
You mean aside from deepthroated support for genocide, right?
Wait who is supportive of genocide that isn’t a conservative??
Start with this shower.
Those are conservatives, they’re just lying about it. The act of supporting genocide immediately places you in that group.
Generally comments on Facebook. I was seeing vitriolic death shit around the Charlie Kirk stuff but extended. Everyone in the comments telling each other to die and threatening. It was gross. Driven by bots it gets everyone worked up. Since the ICE “crackdown” though it seems to be just racists vs sensible people, and I’m glad for that.
I did see a lot of people who were glad or even gleeful he wasn’t spouting his vitriol and died in a way he explicitly approved of, but I’m not on facebook so I didn’t see people making threats at each other. That being said, I know that people both to the right and left of Kirk hated him, so it’s very possible all the hate being spewed was from the right. Seeing as how since the ICE surge isn’t getting the same level of vitriol, I think it’s safe to say that most of those weren’t people that weren’t “left” in any sense of the imagination, or just bots.
Could’a helped with his hundreds of millions of dollars instead of making Unreal Engine’s Smurfs and the Chamber Of White Saviours for the past twenty fucking years.
Yes take what you could and get out while it’s bad. Fuck off then.
