Guys, guys!
You’re ignoring the real questions!
Are the companies running the prisons profitable and how much should you invest???
While private prisons are abhorrent and unconscionable, they aren’t even close to the root cause of our prison problem. Hint: it’s systemic racism and our militarized police culture.
https://www.sentencingproject.org/reports/private-prisons-in-the-united-states/
Louisiana, the #1 on the list supposedly had 0 private prison inmates in 2021. Blaming private prisons at this point almost feels like deflecting from the real issues.
Who
bribesfundsfree speeches the politicians who wrote those laws?Edit: I think I should be explicit. The owners of the private prisons do.
Do we have a dataishorrible community?
Haha we need one.
The thumbnail screenshot doesn’t do it justice. Or maybe you meant USisHorrible.
America has more prisoners than China.
More reported prisoners.
exactly the real numbers for amerikkka are way higher when u take into account all the cia and military prisons across the world that we know next to nothing about.
It’s absolutely projection that other countries must be lying about their prison populations, when we know for a fact that we are, eg ICE only counts migrants who are directly moved to a long-term facility, if they’re moved to a temporary facility first, they are excluded entirely.
I kinda doubt they’re even including the immigrant concentration camps in those stats
Skeptical of Isntreal’s incarceration rate
Skeptical it’s on the list of countries.
Its been a few years since I checked, but as of 2015 at least the US, which is 5% of the world’s population, give or take a few, had over 25% of the world’s prison population. Total. Fucking. Insanity
Am I blind or oregon doesn’t have prisoners?
Below el salvador
It is always depressing to read people all of a sudden worried about other countries like China or Russia, don’t even giving a minuscule fuck about what is happening in their own country.
ok, VLAD
or +999999 social credit points /s (btw social credit isn’t a real thing) https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/15/china-social-credit-system-authoritarian/
land of the free, baby!! 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
I don’t get this graph. So all of US has a smaller incarceration rate than just Louisiana? What?
i have 4 boxes labeled A to D, and 10 rocks.
i put 1 rock in A, 2 in B, 3 in C and 4 in D.
A[⚪] B[⚪⚪] C[⚪⚪⚪] D[⚪⚪⚪⚪]
i then paint 1 rock in B, 2 rocks in C and 1 rock in D.
A[⚪] B[⚪🔴] C[⚪🔴🔴] D[⚪⚪⚪🔴]
then i put the boxes in a bigger box called the united boxes.
here’s the rate of painted rocks:
- C 66% (2/3)
- B 50% (1/2)
- United boxes 40% (4/10)
- D 25% (1/4)
- A 0% (0/1)
Yes, look up what per capita means.
Is that really 1% of the population incarcerated? Wow
In Louisiana, it seems so… that’s insane!!!
A lot of communists like W.E.B. Dubois dedicated a good amount of research to the 2nd phase of reconstruction after the US civil war, often called the counter-revolutionary phase, where a lot of the gains of the civil war were lost.
Their belief is that slavery was allowed to be reinstituted in a limited form in the south (mainly in prisons), black leaders removed from their posts and replaced by confederates, white terrorist orgs like the KKK reformed and turned a blind eye to, and the harsh enforcement of miscegenation laws (many of which only got repealed in the 1960s).
That campaign of terror is what drove black mass migration out of the south and into the US west coast, and north throughout the 20th century.
Obviously the US hasn’t really changed that policy, and still lets the south have slavery in limited forms.
The books black reconstruction, and michelle alexander’s the new jim crow are great ones abt this.
No other country even makes the first page
If every state in America were only 1% worse than every other country, then again the first 50 entries would be the American states. This is barely saying more than “America has the highest incarceration rate,” so it shouldn’t be a surprise.
are you the github dessalines??
Yes he is…
Cool now do USSR
329 per 100k
The Gulag at the peak housed about
7,500(edit: 1,340) per 100k of the Soviet population.(And yes, the US’s 531 is still also an atrocity.)
Where did you get 329? I actually couldn’t find any post-Kruschev numbers, but I know after privatization, Russia was pretty competitive with the US’s dystopian nightmare.
Edit: I was way wrong about the size of the Gulag
From OP’s source.
Ah, got it. I was talking about USSR, not modern Russia. Modern Russia is its own thing and its own brand of horror but not the same as OG Communist USSR which was more what I was trying to highlight.
I doubt anything that came out of the USSR will be entirely accurate anyways.
1·4 months agoNo where did you get 7500??? Holy shit, that would be nearly 10 million people. (assuming somewhere around 160 million total pop)
Yeah. I’m taking the high side of the widely varying estimates of the Gulag population, which in the period of the 1940s range from 3.5 million to 17.6 million depending on who’s doing the estimating.
So, looking for the wildest claims from the middle of the cold war and trying to pass them off as fact?
If you look at the estimates the article actually uses:
By the end of 1940, the population of the Gulag camps amounted to 1.5 million.[13]
According to some estimates, the total population of the camps varied from 510,307 in 1934 to 1,727,970 in 1953.[4] According to other estimates, at the beginning of 1953 the total number of prisoners in prison camps was more than 2.4 million of which more than 465,000 were political prisoners.[22][23] Between the years 1934 to 1953, 20% to 40% of the Gulag population in each given year were released.[24][25]
Your number is several times higher than the highest estimate used outside of the historiography section (in case anyone reading is unfamiliar with the term, historiography is the study of how our understanding of history has changed over time, and so includes references to claims that have now been widely discredited).
Bringing out the whataboutism for a country that doesn’t even exist anymore?
What about the counties where you end up dead well before you can be put behind bars.
They’re the same places with the high incarceration rates. They don’t really care what they’re doing to minorities, as long as it’s cruel
You mean because of the death penalty like in the US or because a cop decided to execute you, like the US?
You mean countries that run star chambers like Obama’s Disposition Matrix?
It’s crazy how many times obama pushed the kill button.
