DigitalDilemma

Don’t think you think America is entering a very recessive time and these hard won rights are at risk of being removed?

Removal of reproductive rights in some states for women, increased religious influence in state and national law making, and an increased uptake of racism fuelled by government anti-immigration rhetoric, fierce government-led hate against trans people and so on. It’s a grim time to be an American if you’re not white, straight and rich.

If there’s no errors on the host, that points more strongly at a problem with the drives, their power, or the usb cable, imo.

What you have, @basketugly, is a keenness to learn. Hold onto that, it’ll pay you dividends throughout your life.

I’m guessing here because you didn’t give the exact error message you’re seeing - but two external SSD’s - should be fine for almost anything - PROVIDED they have sufficient power. Check the power needs of the enclosure and drive, and then what your S12/13 is supplying to the USB ports. You might need an additional power supply or powered hub that gives them enough beef.

Or the USB lead itself is pants - that’s definitely a possibility.

I don’t know what prosody is, but my go-to for hosting anything behind a cgnat that needs incoming connections is to use cloudflare tunnel. Free, reliable, lightweight.

You have no local network access to it at all? (WOL will work across the subnet, you don’t need to connect directly to it)

If genuinely not (and I’d be surprised if that is the case) add another nic of any sort (cheap) for WOL, or use something like Switchbot?

You would need a third device monitoring both for this edge case. Once the server has been told to shut down, it’s going to shut down.

The third device (also on the UPS, like an Rpi or ESP) can then check for power availability through the UPS and whatever logic you want to apply, can then use wake on lan to the server to power it up once it shuts down.

You could do it for free. Take the guts out of your old PC, leave the HDD’s in there and the existing PSU. Extend the sata cables through to your MiniPC.

If the PSU won’t fire up, then there’s a couple of pins in the main block you can jumper - or fit a momentary switch to - to act as a switch.

The old PSU will still be reasonable efficient, since power is not wasted except as heat, and it shouldn’t get hot running just the hdd’s. 3.5 hdd’s use around 8-20watt each, depending on spindle speed, so at most it’s 100w at startup, but probably settle down to ~40 for the drives.

Or - yes, those things you linked will work too, but they’re basically doing the same job as the above.

But what real-world significance does this have?

None - I don’t know of anyone that parses release names. Versions, yes, absolutely, but silly version release names?

I came into the comments to see what other reason there was, but it seems it’s a non-story.

Before this year, the thought of an entirely arbitrary block to things like American cloud services by America to its European allies would have seemed extremely unlikely. It would make no sense, the damage to America and it’s GDP would far outweigh any any political benefit.

All of those reasons still hold true, but I absolutely assure you, European governments and companies all over have that possibility firmly in their risk portfolio now. America tells microsoft to immediately not only stop selling products in Europe, but disable those already in use? Ditto Google. Ditto Apple. Ditto all the hundreds of IT hardware producers that are American. Want to cripple a foreign government that uses MS Office? Remotely disable it. job done. Sure, it would be illegal, but America’s government has no respect for law.

(Even before this, several European governments were using open source (Germany, France, Austria, Portugal - there’s a list but this is less about idealism and more about protecting themselves from the unpredictable as well as not trusting America with their data any more. Every thing like this can only be seen as non Americans distancing themselves from America every way they can, and with good reason.)

Other have answered the runtime and load question very well already.

I have three other points.

1. Batteries degrade over time. Over-speccing your UPS means more likelyhood that things will hold up in three years time as the capacity given is for new ones. Plus, not running your UPS at 100% capacity reduces its stress. Again, more reliable.

2. You can get a much better quality UPS by buying a second hand one without batteries off ebay and replacing them yourself, typically for a fraction of the cost of buying new. Plus you know you have new batteries. UPS is something where quality genuinely matters. I’ve had to carry a cheap and badly made UPS out of an office whilst it was on fire, so now I spec more carefully. (And ensure they’re metal bodied!)

3. Consider what you NEED to power. What sort of power cuts are you expecting? Does it matter if something goes down?

I UPS my servers and my main desktop, but not my routers, nor my wifi or IOT things. My internet provider also goes out when there’s a cut (I’m on a mesh system so rely on neighbours, who will typically also be down) and I can’t do much without power anyway, but it keeps the disks spinning. We typically get very short automated outages here of less than 10s (yesterday was a bad day, we had 9 within 2 hours)

Stolen? The employees were paid, weren’t they?

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My aim is for 4x10TB to run on RAID 5.

I strongly recommend not putting 5x 10tbs in raid 5 if you value data integrity of the set. Chance of failure during a rebuild following a dead disk is disproportionately high.

Consider instead: Raid 1+0, Raid 6 or ZFS. I use 1+0 in my 4x4tb set as a reasonable compromise for usable space and speed.

One of thousands of such articles; https://www.askdbmgt.com/why-raid5-should-be-avoided-at-all-costs.html

Fuck this project, but… their source code can be free and open source even if they distribute binaries which aren’t.

An example of how this didn’t work for one project. (From memory, and it was a long time ago - 2005/2008 ish)

Xchat was once the best IRC client for Windows (after Mirc). It was free software, but the developer started charging for the Windows builds of it. Linux binaries were still free, but he claimed that it was time consuming to build on Windows and etc etc (A bit rich considering it was mostly his code - and there were suspicions he made it deliberately so)

Some people were pretty pissed off about this, especially as it used some other code that was foss and it was felt against the spirit.

Anyway, it was cloned into Hexchat which is fully free on all platforms and apparently not so difficult to build binaries after all.

15 years later to today, Hexchat is thriving and Xchat has been completely dead for 15 years.

I was curious so I took a closer look at Sheltermanager and, honestly, I’m very impressed. They have a free demo on their site so you can show it off to people and see if there’s any interest.

And agree, self-hosting doesn’t sound like it would suit them or you, but you asked in an opensource thread and that is nearly always self-hosted. SM looks quite fairly priced for a hosted solution.

That’s their decision, but it’s very unlikely. Like much bespoke software that’s evolved over a long time, it was a pretty messy codebase, and also mostly in perl and was entirely written to their exact needs. It worked because of me, which was a curse because they were unable to find another person to support it after I left.

It’s a shame that doesn’t exist yet. I was in your position for a horse charity 25 years ago and couldn’t find anything either. I ended up writing them such a system, which grew and grew. Sadly it was owned by them and replaced a couple of years ago.

Is sheltermanager not suitable for self hosting? They claim to be open source

I don’t think it’s blind devotion - most of us would acknowledge the guy can be a bit of a dick sometimes.

But we’re also grateful. Without his silly idea in the 90s, linux wouldn’t exist. Computing today would be massively different - big, commercial, massively expensive unixes like Sco and Solaris dominating the industry. My main hobby for 20 years would be very different. My career for six years wouldn’t exist.

That Linus has stayed an actively contributing member whilst not selling out in any way at all for 34 years is… wow. Could you do it? I’m certain i couldn’t. I have neither the ethical strength nor moral compass to do it. And I’m certain if he dropped out, some of the massive egos that satellite around Linux, or the monetizing businesses would seek to take over and twist it to their needs.

And, y’know, on the matter of technical detail like this. He’s nearly always right. Seriously, look it up. He’s not polite, he’s not diplomatic, but he’s nearly always right. And when he’s not, he’ll admit it. Again, not your normal human.

So yeah, that’s why we respect him and, when he talks, we listen. Even if it’s not something we’re involved with, it’s usually an interesting ride.

Spez was a total musk fanboy during the early Twitter changes and said that he used him as an inspiration when changing Reddit’s api, breaking all the decent phone clients. I don’t doubt he’ll do anything to join the big boys club.