Sam Altman, the recently fired (and rehired) chief executive of Open AI, was asked earlier this year by his fellow tech billionaire Patrick Collison what he thought of the risks of synthetic biology. ‘I would like to not have another synthetic pathogen cause a global pandemic. I think we can all agree that wasn’t a great experience,’ he replied. ‘Wasn’t that bad compared to what it could have been, but I’m surprised there has not been more global coordination and I think we should have more of that.’

  • tetris11@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    Wait, I’ve been out for a bit - what was the actual consensus on Covid? I genuinely thought there was a Wuhan Lab that this all originated from?

    I’m not a nut job, I can be reasoned with, i just need to update my beliefs with new info

    • emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      There is an institute of virology in Wuhan, but it is most likely that Covid-19 spread naturally from bats to humans.

      • Bat coronaviruses are common in the South China - Thailand - Myanmar region, and viruses jump host species all the time.

      • Labs that handle human pathogens are maintained under very high security. The one in Wuhan is BSL4, the highest security rating, and had prior experience handling coronaviruses. Also, the viruses themselves would be marked with radioactive isotopes. Even if they somehow got out of the building, it would be possible to find and quarantine all those exposed to it.

      • If it was released on purpose, then we can narrow the list of suspects down to the countries that can reliably make bioweapons and antidotes with close to 100% certainty. That’s the US, China and maybe Russia. The US and Russia were among the worst affected, and China wouldn’t have released the virus in China.

      So the most likely explanation is that it is a bat virus that jumped hosts.

      • Ibex0@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        the viruses themselves would be marked with radioactive isotopes. Even if they somehow got out of the building, it would be possible to find and quarantine all those exposed to it.

        China wouldn’t have released the virus in China

        You don’t know that. Nobody knows that, because China destroyed all the evidence. If this was true, they could have proved it, they could have shown the world! “Behold our innocence!!” Why didn’t that happen?

    • gerikson@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      I believe the scientific consensus is that it originated in a wet market in Wuhan.

      The “lab leak theory”, while not impossible, is also shorthand for a morass of conspiracy theories grounded in racist attitudes towards China. It somehow conflates that the pandemic is China’s fault, if not an outright attack from China, while simultaneously downplaying any efforts to mitigate such an attack.

      • MataVatnik@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I guess most people aren’t up to date with this subject. There has been plenty of discussion with experts that point to the possibility of a lab leak. The wet market hypothesis has so many holes in it that it’s impossible to take seriously.

      • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        grounded in racist attitudes towards China

        I don’t understand why that’s considered racist? Why is a conspiracy theory that China has a world class biolab capable of a global pandemic racist?

        A crazy conspiracy that a foreign power has biotech superiority isn’t racism.