I mean… They're really not that different. They're till Trek fans who prefer a different flavor of Trek. Star Trek is pretty consistent in the image that it puts forward and that doesn't change very much per series. Plus, one of the worst things about reddit is the ability to have hyper specific subreddits for anything. They all end up causing an echo chamber and end up being not that encouraging to new members. I really don't wanna see that happen to the Trek communities here on lemmy, personally.
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said, EXCEPT that they're not that different. I think most of the shows have a very unique tone, especially when you go from TNG to DS9, but unless I'm mistaken DS9 was intended to be "different".
Maybe a few of the new ones are pretty similar, that's for sure. But the older ones? Nah.
But I'm not looking for an echo of what I just said, so by all means if anyone wants to disagree with me, by all means! I don't get a chance to talk about trek outside of the internet and I'd love to hear other takes on them.
Edit: and only after posting did I realize you meant the FANS aren't that different, but you do go on to say the shows are pretty consistent so I'll leave this here.
Yeah, your edit is right there. The fans are essentially all the same but with different preferences. The shows all have their own vibe and tone that are pretty different. Well I'd argue that TNG and VOY are very close in tone but that's about it.
100% agree with Voyager. I think Picard would handle things with more restraint, and probably would have taken an additional few years to get home, but really it's "exploration… with a twist"
I don't know if we would have gotten protosalamander babies in tng, but then again we got sub rosa so…
Pretty much. People give Janeway a lot of shit but I honestly think she takes her job as a Captain about as seriously as Picard. As well as their duty/oath to Starfleet. Doesn't mean their perfect by a longshot but she deserves more credit than she gets. Took an insane amount of guts to (on multiple occasions) put the needs of the many against the needs of the few. Especially when those few were herself and the crew. Even more amazing when you see the times that the crew are given a chance to leave and no one does. Except Seska but we don't talk about that Cardassian bitch.
She was absolutely between a rock and a hard place. You have a responsibility to get everyone home, but you can't just dive straight in and strong arm your way to get there as fast as possible, both because that's a shitty thing to do and because you'll likely face consequences at the very least by starfleet when you get home, maybe by delta species who don't like what you're doing.
Honestly I don't know a single person who has a negative thing to say about Janeway, except maybe she was too restrained sometimes.
How many of the crew, especially the Maquis, had nothing to return to and could have settled on one of the worlds they encountered? That said it's a completely foreign society whose complications and nuances you couldn't possibly be able to comprehend in the few weeks Voyager is within range.
Seska? I'm not aware of a crew member with that name. There was a Cardassian spy on board one of the ships, but… She's no longer a concern.
Lower Decks addresses it very well in Twovix. The situation is different when you have the whole Federation there to help you out. Voyager was no Equinox.
I think that was probably my favorite part of Twovix. Everyone was horrified someone had to die but everyone kinda understood too. There was no answer to it and it was fucked up but honestly it'd be fucked up to keep Tuvix as well. No one judged her for making that call with no external Federation support.
Was nice to see that instead of strictly "JANEWAY MURDERER" after she constantly puts herself and the crew in harms way to help civilians.
This instance and community it doing well, but is far from the half million base on the old place.
The mods have been really positive towards establishing new communities as volumes pick up. Many of us would like to see the one for Treklit (books and comics) split of, but we just don’t have the numbers to make those kinds of communities viable yet.
Also, there’s really benefits to a crosscutting discussion. Things are civil enough here that it’s working.
We see a lot of people here finally becoming persuaded to give shows they’d passed on a try, including Lower Decks.
Post your thread here. Seems counterproductive to create increasingly specific communities when the ones we have are still far from oversaturated.
Is a community for each series excessively specific, though?
Some of them have very different fan bases (thinking TOS vs Voyager, or anything vs the obviously superior Enterprise.)
With the size of the community here? Yes very much.
It might be worth it if here gets as big as Reddit.
I mean… They're really not that different. They're till Trek fans who prefer a different flavor of Trek. Star Trek is pretty consistent in the image that it puts forward and that doesn't change very much per series. Plus, one of the worst things about reddit is the ability to have hyper specific subreddits for anything. They all end up causing an echo chamber and end up being not that encouraging to new members. I really don't wanna see that happen to the Trek communities here on lemmy, personally.
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said, EXCEPT that they're not that different. I think most of the shows have a very unique tone, especially when you go from TNG to DS9, but unless I'm mistaken DS9 was intended to be "different".
Maybe a few of the new ones are pretty similar, that's for sure. But the older ones? Nah.
But I'm not looking for an echo of what I just said, so by all means if anyone wants to disagree with me, by all means! I don't get a chance to talk about trek outside of the internet and I'd love to hear other takes on them.
Edit: and only after posting did I realize you meant the FANS aren't that different, but you do go on to say the shows are pretty consistent so I'll leave this here.
Yeah, your edit is right there. The fans are essentially all the same but with different preferences. The shows all have their own vibe and tone that are pretty different. Well I'd argue that TNG and VOY are very close in tone but that's about it.
100% agree with Voyager. I think Picard would handle things with more restraint, and probably would have taken an additional few years to get home, but really it's "exploration… with a twist"
I don't know if we would have gotten protosalamander babies in tng, but then again we got sub rosa so…
Pretty much. People give Janeway a lot of shit but I honestly think she takes her job as a Captain about as seriously as Picard. As well as their duty/oath to Starfleet. Doesn't mean their perfect by a longshot but she deserves more credit than she gets. Took an insane amount of guts to (on multiple occasions) put the needs of the many against the needs of the few. Especially when those few were herself and the crew. Even more amazing when you see the times that the crew are given a chance to leave and no one does. Except Seska but we don't talk about that Cardassian bitch.
She was absolutely between a rock and a hard place. You have a responsibility to get everyone home, but you can't just dive straight in and strong arm your way to get there as fast as possible, both because that's a shitty thing to do and because you'll likely face consequences at the very least by starfleet when you get home, maybe by delta species who don't like what you're doing.
Honestly I don't know a single person who has a negative thing to say about Janeway, except maybe she was too restrained sometimes.
How many of the crew, especially the Maquis, had nothing to return to and could have settled on one of the worlds they encountered? That said it's a completely foreign society whose complications and nuances you couldn't possibly be able to comprehend in the few weeks Voyager is within range.
Seska? I'm not aware of a crew member with that name. There was a Cardassian spy on board one of the ships, but… She's no longer a concern.
Lower Decks addresses it very well in Twovix. The situation is different when you have the whole Federation there to help you out. Voyager was no Equinox.
I think that was probably my favorite part of Twovix. Everyone was horrified someone had to die but everyone kinda understood too. There was no answer to it and it was fucked up but honestly it'd be fucked up to keep Tuvix as well. No one judged her for making that call with no external Federation support.
Was nice to see that instead of strictly "JANEWAY MURDERER" after she constantly puts herself and the crew in harms way to help civilians.
For now, given the size of the user base? Yes.
Will it be forever?
I pray to the Black Mountain Koala, NO.
With a fairly small amount of people, splitting up the fanbase seems counterproductive.
Besides, us lower-decker gotta stick together, unless it's delta shift (who really think Enterprise was the peak)
Excellent points.
This instance and community it doing well, but is far from the half million base on the old place.
The mods have been really positive towards establishing new communities as volumes pick up. Many of us would like to see the one for Treklit (books and comics) split of, but we just don’t have the numbers to make those kinds of communities viable yet.
Also, there’s really benefits to a crosscutting discussion. Things are civil enough here that it’s working.
We see a lot of people here finally becoming persuaded to give shows they’d passed on a try, including Lower Decks.
Cheeky.