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    1 year ago

    Yeah, your edit is right there. The fans are essentially all the same but with different preferences. The shows all have their own vibe and tone that are pretty different. Well I'd argue that TNG and VOY are very close in tone but that's about it.

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      100% agree with Voyager. I think Picard would handle things with more restraint, and probably would have taken an additional few years to get home, but really it's "exploration… with a twist"

      I don't know if we would have gotten protosalamander babies in tng, but then again we got sub rosa so…

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        1 year ago

        Pretty much. People give Janeway a lot of shit but I honestly think she takes her job as a Captain about as seriously as Picard. As well as their duty/oath to Starfleet. Doesn't mean their perfect by a longshot but she deserves more credit than she gets. Took an insane amount of guts to (on multiple occasions) put the needs of the many against the needs of the few. Especially when those few were herself and the crew. Even more amazing when you see the times that the crew are given a chance to leave and no one does. Except Seska but we don't talk about that Cardassian bitch.

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          She was absolutely between a rock and a hard place. You have a responsibility to get everyone home, but you can't just dive straight in and strong arm your way to get there as fast as possible, both because that's a shitty thing to do and because you'll likely face consequences at the very least by starfleet when you get home, maybe by delta species who don't like what you're doing.

          Honestly I don't know a single person who has a negative thing to say about Janeway, except maybe she was too restrained sometimes.

          How many of the crew, especially the Maquis, had nothing to return to and could have settled on one of the worlds they encountered? That said it's a completely foreign society whose complications and nuances you couldn't possibly be able to comprehend in the few weeks Voyager is within range.

          Seska? I'm not aware of a crew member with that name. There was a Cardassian spy on board one of the ships, but… She's no longer a concern.

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          Lower Decks addresses it very well in Twovix. The situation is different when you have the whole Federation there to help you out. Voyager was no Equinox.

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            I think that was probably my favorite part of Twovix. Everyone was horrified someone had to die but everyone kinda understood too. There was no answer to it and it was fucked up but honestly it'd be fucked up to keep Tuvix as well. No one judged her for making that call with no external Federation support.

            Was nice to see that instead of strictly "JANEWAY MURDERER" after she constantly puts herself and the crew in harms way to help civilians.