The officers also tried to warn residents that a police dog named Loki was present, but their attempts to do so in Spanish were nonsensical, according to court records.
“Pedo policía pedo la madera,” officers repeatedly said, which a translator later found meant, “Fart police, fart the wood.”
Eventually, the officers entered the home and arrested the man they were looking for. After that man’s arrest, the officers entered the bedroom where Guerrero-Salmeron was and commanded the police dog to bite the man. The dog bit Guerrero-Salmeron, who was unarmed, on the arm for about 15 seconds as he held up his tourist visa and ID.
Attack dogs are one thing on a very long list of things we need to abolish…
It’s debatable if we even need “sniffing” dogs, but if we do they need to be fucking bloodhounds and not German Shepherds.
Sniffing dogs from the fart police? An interesting concept indeed…
Along with any motherfucker that thinks its an acceptable form of street retribution
Dogs are fantastic for the police, and if you’re a criminal, they’re much better than getting shot.
Nonsensical, your request for abolishment is REJECTED.
The cops need the dogs as probable cause generators.
The cops need the dogs as probable cause generators.
I moved to a border area in 2018. The first time I went through a CBP checkpoint I watched the agent tap the side of my campervan; when the dog “alerted” (looked where he tapped) they pulled me out of line for an inspection. Totes legit.
They put me on the bench where the handcuffs were hanging. It took ~45mins to toss the camper interior.
Since then I’ve been through checkpoints countless times with no pullouts or dog “alerts”. IMO the most likely explanation is they wanted an excuse to inspect the camper at first contact.
need
Want
And I’m saying we should stop letting them have them
I agree, I was being facetious, and agreeing they’re only used as probable cause generators, which isn’t right.
justice department wants them as well. They need all the help they can get filling their private prisons.
Now that you mention it I’m surprised ICE doesn’t use them. I’m sure they’d love it. “There’s a tanned person over there! Get!”
Dogs require handlers to grow up with the dog, and ICE thugs are too incompetent for things like “training” and “staying employed for more than a year”.
I understand that but I don’t think that would be any of ICE’s concerns.
Sniffing dogs are useful for more than just drugs/explosives, they can be used to help find lost/missing/kidnapped people and find buried bodies.
You DO NOT cross train the dogs…where I can’t see problems that a cadaver dog would cause, cross training a bomb and drug dog is a disaster waiting to happen
Put a cross trained drug and bomb dog in the airport and itd probably bring hings to a standstill lol.
Those are called cadaver dogs and like you said very useful for finding people needed to be found.
Given the name, are they only trained for dead bodies, or the same dog also tracks lost people?
In most tests, coin flips outperform dogs for both drugs and explosives.
No fucking way, stop making shit up.
Bees are better and more ethical than dogs.
https://worldbeeproject.org/2023/06/08/training-bees-to-detect-bombs/
You can train them to search for any smell.
But nonorganic methods to “smell” exist too
Well thats pretty cool, but also a far way off from tracking something.
You train a bee to smell a person who was lost on a mountain and they’ll be like oh ya, they were here, this spot is great give me my sugar, instead of tracking them and leading you 20km away.
Crazy how you both learned about something and became an expert at it at the same time…
So I’m just gonna block you now, because you’re going to keep making assumptions and thinking they’re correct until someone explains it. And then just repeating the process.
Any exchange with you would just be pointless.
lol okay dude. The article didn’t make any mention of being able to have them follow something, just find something. Sniffing dogs need to follow something. (edit: and they are trained to follow it as they keep finding it while also being led on by the handlers as needed)
I’ve had givessomefucks tagged as “confidently incorrect” for years. It’s kinda their thing.
Well then, I must have really hit a nerve to get immediately blocked if he actually blocked me 🤣
That’s why you have to appoint a head bee guy
The bee bit my bottom! Now my bottom’s complaining
Your bottom should appreciate the extra size though
In all fairness, I don’t speak Spanish, but the other comments here are breaking it down pretty clearly, that the officers spoke some really piss poor Spanish.
As far as police dogs, different dogs and even different dog breeds are trained exclusively for specific tasks…
- Violent Perpetrator Pursuit (Often German Shepard)
- On The Run Perpetrator (Often Bloodhound)
- Missing Person or Corpse Sniffing (Also Often Bloodhound)
- Drug Sniffing Dogs
- Bomb Sniffing Dogs
I’m no full expert on this, but I do know for a fact that they train different police dogs for specific tasks, and often (but not always) train specific exact breeds for specific tasks.
Still, dog in Spanish is perro, not that other word they said…
If they didn’t roll the R right, I can see hearing “pehdo”
200 000$ - 100 000$ in medical fees for a dog bite. Not bad I might go to the US for easy cash like that. Si si pedo la madera
It’s the US though the treatment costs for papercut probably would bankrupt you.
I’ve seen the results from dog bites. That 200,000 might not be enough to make up for your lost function/enjoyment-of-life. The damage can be pretty nasty.
Yeah if it bites through the tendons, you’re going to need all of that money in America.
You guys seem to be forgetting that the mauling was the American police version of a nonviolent interaction.
It’s Auora and should probably be considered another country in-itself. It was disowned by Denver and the rest of Colorado years ago.
Regardless, it has a really shitty history of police behavior and this was likely fairly low on the scale of what Aurora would consider violent behavior.
Aurora’s only function is to catch the off-gassing from Commerce City so it kinda puts the “fart police” in better context. It’s also probably why the police there are also a little “special”.
I don’t think I’ll be staying in US after that just stop the bleeding then back to europe and go get free treatment in a French hospital and paid leave and I can enjoy a lot of glasses of wine at the café at the Harbour.
You gotta leave all that freedom at the door when you leave, buddy. This is 'murica.
What an insane world.
Colorado has been especially insane with policing as of late. There was another case recently where an “off-duty” police dog jumped a fence into a neighbors backyard and bit a girl having her 2nd birthday party. It also bit her father when he jumped in to protect her leaving both with lifelong injuries. The county ruled that the officer gets qualified immunity and also that they’re not responsible for the medical bills because the dog’s handler was “cleaning urine out of the dogs crate at the time” (a highly-trained K9 pissing in its crate??) therefore this happened “while performing official duties.”
Another man just won a $24 million judgement against Parker, CO police after a detected arrested him and ran his name through the mud for hiring an attorney for his son who was accused of shooting two people. The detective claimed he had tampered with evidence and was an accessory to the crime because she was mad the son had an attorney so quickly. She was able to retire and face no accountability.
Another judgement was handed out against police there for raiding the wrong house based on nothing more than a ping from Apple “Find my device.” They cuffed a 78-year-old woman at gunpoint and ransacked her home despite doing no investigation prior to doing the SWAT raid.
I also see tons of bodycam videos out of CO showing blatant rights violations that routinely go unpunished.
It seems like the more “liberal” areas of the country always have some of the worst police. We see the same here in Portland and Seattle too.
Qualified Immunity is cancerous bullshit.
Colorado doesnt actually have qualified immunity anymore. This kind of shit still happens, and there is a cap on a police officers personal liability, but QI was eliminated as a defense in 2020.
I’m trying to remember, but wasn’t there some investigations on seattle’s police, and they were specifically from outside the area (so locals aren’t hired as the local cops) and told to act as shitty as they do? They were under one of those federal agreements at one point, and a lot of dirt came out on them.
Yes the Proud Boys are from the area between Portland and Seattle and they worked their way into both departments. Seattle was under a consent decree until Trump scrapped it because he is corruption incarnate.
Colorado has been trying to reign in the police and then all the nut jobs come out of the woodwork at the worst time to support them so nothing ever changes.
Seriously, you can’t make this shit up.
It’s Aurora
The fuck were they even trying to say in Spanish? Perro policía? But what the hell were they going for with La madera??
Just a guess, but I don’t think what they said was in good faith. Sounds like a failed attempt for mock the language
I honestly think if the guy they were looking for was Asian they would have said “ching chong police wonton eggroll”
I speak Mandarin. That translates to Fart on the police eggroll. Very common to hear in some Asian communities.
Pedo kind of makes sense to me. The Spanish double r is an alveolar trill, which is very similar to the alveolar tap, which is expressed in English as the letter d between vowels (like in “butter”). Therefore rr=d I guess. But I have zero idea about madera. In Spain madero is a pejoritive for police, but I have no idea why the cops themselves would use it, and I’d have a hard time believing google translate spit that out before literally any other word
“Open up, it’s the pigs”!
“…are you sure that’s the right word?”
“Yeah man, ChatGPT said that’s how you say police in casual speech”
In spanish - castilian slang “maderos” are “policías”, perhaps from there?
But what the hell were they going for with La madera??
La migra?
And what gringo has never called their precious perro a pedo?
