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  • Not sure if that is a serious question, but it’s because formatting doesn’t depend on the type of variables but going to the definition of a field obviously depends on the type that the field is in.

    formatting does depend on the type of variables. Go look at ktfmt’s codebase and come back after you’ve done so…

    Maybe my example was not clear enough for you - I guess it’s possible you’ve never experienced working intellisense, so you don’t understand the feature I’m describing.

    Lol, nice try with the insult there. I code in Kotlin, my intellisense works just fine. I just think you’re quite ignorant and have no clue what you’re actually talking about.

    Ctrl-click on bar. Where does it jump to?

    it gives you an option, just like if it was an interface. Did you actually try this out before commenting? Guessing not. And how often are you naming functions the exact same thing across two different classes without using an interface? And if you were using an interface intellisense would work the exact same way, giving you the option to jump to any of the implementations.

    I’m sorry, but you clearly haven’t thought this out, or you’re really quite ignorant as to how intellisense works in all languages (including Ruby, and including statically typed languages).



  • By using the AST? Do you really not know how languages work? I mean seriously, this is incredibly basic stuff. You don’t need to know the type to jump to the ast node location. Do you think that formatters for dynamic languages need to know the type in order to format them properly? Then why in the world would you need it to know where to jump to in a type definition!?!

    Edit: also in the case of Ruby, the entire thing runs on a VM which used to be YARV but I think might have changed recently. So there’s literally bytecode providing all the information needed to run it. I highly recommend reading a book about how the Ruby internals work since you seem to think you understand but it’s quite clear you don’t, or for some reason think “jump to” is this magical thing that requires types.










  • Maybe other Ruby code is better, but people always say Rails is the killer app of Ruby so…

    I’ve literally never heard anyone say that…

    That only works if you have static type annotations, which seems to be very rare in the Ruby world.

    no. it literally works for any ruby code in any project. you do not need static type annotations at all. I can tell you’ve literally never even tried this…

    Well, I agree you shouldn’t use Ruby for large projects like Gitlab. But why use it for anything?

    because it’s a fantastic scripting language with a runtime that is available on almost every platform on the planet by default (yes most linux distributions include it, compared to something like python which is hardly ever included and if it is it’s 2.x instead of 3.x). It’s also much more readable than bash, python, javascript, etc. so writing a readable (and runnable everywhere) script is dead simple. Writing CLIs with it is also dead simple, while I think Python has a few better libraries for this like Click, Ruby is much more portable than Python (this isn’t my opinion, this is experience from shipping both ruby and python clis for years).


  • Yeah I think that everyone here is latching onto the workflow part of this, when I don’t think that’s the problem here at all. OP mentioned that they search these, etc. but the real problem is the merging of windows, correct? So why can’t these windows merge properly? Well it’s probably the extension sucks (because I can drag hundreds of tabs around in sidebery just fine) or that they have disabled swap mem.

    I understand everyone is freaking out about the workflow, but this is the reverse of the XY problem, like what happens on SO. Everyone tells them they’re doing it wrong rather than just telling them how to do what they’re trying to do. If OP had said “I have 2gb of ram and I have 30 tabs open in different windows and I use this extension to merge them and FF freezes” no one would be batting an eye about helping them.


  • You have different windows, different Multi-account containers. And if you type in something into your address bar it will just automatically jump to an open tab if you already have it open. No need to perform another search and find it. It’s not hard to maintain this many tabs. Just like it’s not hard to know where stuff is in your house. You keep the tools and cars in the garage, the yard equipment in the shed etc. You have thousands of items in your house or apartment, you don’t have trouble keeping those separated do you? Unless you’re one of those people that just tosses stuff as soon as they don’t need it anymore, but I don’t think that’s the majority of people, at least not from talking to my therapist it isn’t.

    And it’s not about being productive. Like, if I have one window open it might be for the research for a thing I want to buy, for example we’re thinking about getting starlink for camping. So I have a window open with like 50 fucking tabs because choosing a powersupply, figuring out the calculations for how much wattage I’m going to be using, etc. I need all those open. I mean I could move that into an obsidian doc, but that’s a hell of a lot of stuff to write down for something I only need to research and buy once. And then it gets left open because I already did the research and it’s much easier to find if I have to step away to do something else, or I put off the research for a week since we’re not camping yet.

    The same goes for work stuff. We’re testing stuff in salesforce and I have 10 tabs open for every test because you have to verify every single field of data I’m pushing from the backend into salesforce.

    But it’s not like I’m even noticing the 950+ tabs that are open. I don’t have that window open. I use sidebery so I can see all the tabs in my window with their full names at a glance (here’s an example of the current window where I’ve been responding to lemmy comments.

    And a lot of the times I open an article to read, then someone messages me to help them, I jump over to help them, and then I come back to the article in a week. Or two weeks. Or three months. And then after I’m finished with it I close it. But I’m not gonna bookmark that. Bookmarks are for stuff you keep coming back to. Managing bookmarks in a browser isn’t like managing a bookmark in a book you’re reading. Deleting them is harder, filing them is harder, etc.


  • You’re talking about rails. That’s like saying Kotlin is a terrible language because your only exposure to it is with something that decided to use Glassfish Webfly Swarm and Camel.

    type annotations

    You can literally follow code perfectly fine in an IDE like RubyMine. It actually works much better than Python because Ruby is incredibly consistent in its language design, while Python is an absolute mess (same with JS. Try opening a large Python or JS project in PyCharm or WebStorm).

    No clue what you’re talking about with grepping though. Use an IDE like I said and you can literally just “Find all usages” or “Jump to declaration”, etc.

    In any case, you shouldn’t be using any of these for large projects like gitlab, so it’s completely inconsequential. Saying something like “Java is terrible, have you ever used it for a CLI? It’s so slow it’s impossible to do anything!” is idiotic because of course it is. That’s not what it’s built for. Ruby is a scripting language. Use it for scripting. It kicks Python’s ass for many reasons, JS is terrible for scripting, and while you can use something like bash or rust, the situation is incredibly painful for both.

    None of this has absolutely anything to do with the language design. You’re talking about language design and equating it to being terrible and then saying it’s because you don’t use any sort of tools to actually make it work.