I’ve been reading about the user revolt on the Twin Peaks subreddit calling for a ban on AI art. As best I can tell we don’t really have people posting AI stuff here yet, but I’m wondering if it would be a good idea to ban it before it becomes a problem. I’m soliciting feedback from y’all on this, please let me know what you prefer.

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    1 day ago

    Wouldn’t that mean that only those who are big enough to afford commissioning art (or not be afraid to lie about generating it) will pass?

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      Believe it or not, you can release written content without professional art. Used to be done all the time. Deciding you want to skip ahead in your progress as a publisher and use tools that have been built off the back of unconsenting contributors doesn’t entitle you to someone’s platform.

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        Yes, one can do that. But, probably because of how content ( in broad meaning) works, it’s not being done. That’s why I’m afraid such rule would mostly cut out the small-fries

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          What makes you say it’s not being done? Where are you somehow finding a lack of content?

          There’s free tools, maps, oneshots, entire games with 1-2 page rulesets being posted online all the time that aren’t utilizing AI. All for free. The TTRPG community is bursting with content.

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            Mostly stuff that is not fantasy and not a spaceship

            I don’t suppose I see all that is happening in modern+ RPG branch (niche?). But I do support a few creators on Patreon, I follow a few creators on DTRPG, I follow a bunch of blogs. And I see all walks of AIGen

            • things without AIGen that look well good for the creators that they are able to do the content AND a cover image/presentation
            • things without AIGen that look poor but the content is good I would not hold it against the creators to try improve the looks with AIGen. I know that this is the point we don’t agree on, I just wanted to point this out
            • things with AIGen that have good contents clearly the creators like from the previous point but after taking that decision
            • things with AIGen that IMO are crap yeah, this is a waste of everything

            That’s why I’m more in “let downvotes tell the story” camp. Because in the end it’s not the use of AIGen that makes a thing bad. It’s the decision of the creator that “this is good enough”. And without covering the bad stuff too, we are just sweeping it under the rug

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      Or willing to, y’know, use stock art or not include art, and damn the people who think TTRPG books only have value insofar as they have lots of new pictures.

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        I share the view that rpg content mostly does not need images. But I can bet it sells better and gets better reach when it does

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          I have personally found that art from fairytale stories that’s too old to have copyright can be a fun way to fill in little margins and decorate things. There are some sites that make them available with an explicit “this is way out of copyright, you can use this for whatever you want but please credit us for supplying it”

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            That’s great. And it should be encouraged. But what about modern+ settings?

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              Oh definitely, it’s not a universal solution. Just figured I’d mention a less obvious option that has helped me out before

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            I have an example where I’m sure the dry presentation does a disservice to the content. For someone who does not care about AI vs no-AI, it will look less professional than the titles next to it. But I don’t want to turn this into a vivisection of a particular example

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            I’m afraid it’s not an excuse but the reality. Whatever the reason one does content for, whether it’s additional income, trying to change career or just clout, without reach you don’t have an audience. In order to have reach, someone has to choose to click on that link in the feed. I am sure that an image does help with that And stock art places often either have non-stock art pirated anyway, or there’s nothing in there

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      Public domain or stock images combined with an afternoon of Gimp/Krita.

      Had a friend who started with no experience and they managed to make some damn professional looking art for their playbook.