What happened in the vegan community?

I hadn’t heard about any of this until seeing that ToS post.

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      2 months ago

      I would encourage people contemplating it’s use to instead get any of the many herbivore companions instead of trying to make the square peg fit in the round hole.

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        2 months ago

        but I’m asking a simple question: if the cat enjoys the food, and it has all the nutrition the cat requires for a healthy life, would you have any objection?

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          2 months ago

          If it actually enjoyed it, sure. But I believe it would be a substantial lowering of their quality of life. Seeing the difference between how happy my cats are with their normal food vs wet cat food vs churu treats, it’s plain as day they have preferences. While they can survive with proper nutrients, they won’t have as fulfilling a life by limiting their food source in such a manner.

          I won’t talk about what’s natural since my cats aren’t catching any salmon or taking down a cow on their own, but I’m not getting a pet just to enforce a restrictive diet on them.

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            2 months ago

            So as long as the cat is happy eating the food and has nutrition it’s really not a problem.

            I’m not a vet or a scientist. but these issues are easy to solve.

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              2 months ago

              You are certainly neither. If it was easy to solve, it would already be done. I believe it’s feasable with today’s techniques with imitation meat but at a huge cost.

              The reality is that most pet food utilizes what would otherwise become food waste. It may be difficult to replace it in a way that isn’t a net negative.

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                  2 months ago

                  That’s the thing. I don’t need to be, because I’m not suggesting a diet shift away from established practices offered BY vets. You, however, are attempting to escew established norms in favor of your own agenda. As they say, “Fantastic claims require fantastic evidence.”

                  My claims are not fantastical, yours are.

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                    2 months ago

                    but if someone who understood it better than us agreed that the food was nutritional and the cat enjoyed the flavour you would be fine with it?

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          1 month ago

          Yes I do, only in online comments you can’t speak while another person is talking unless it’s a livestream chat

          The online comment version of basically responding over and over again to eventually tire the other person out

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            1 month ago

            talking to tire someone out is not Gish gallop.

            So you don’t understand the term.

            here:

            The Gish gallop (/ˈɡɪʃ ˈɡæləp/) is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm an opponent by presenting an excessive number of arguments, with no regard for their accuracy or strength, with a rapidity that makes it impossible for the opponent to address them in the time available.