The rise from starter job to top government official usually includes things like gaining experience, having some success, being a noteworthy professional in some way…
The lack of experience is worthy of criticism; but the “Ex-Gardener and Grocery Store Assistant” is presented as not worthy of respect. Which is bullshit.
It has the same air as some trumpanzee dipshit trying to insult AOC by calling her a ‘bartender’, as though having been a bartender makes her unqualified for her current position, which is similarly bullshit.
Gardeners, store assistants, and bartenders all contribute to our society and shouldn’t be looked down on for their role; nor should that role be held against them when they decide to move on to something else.
…I guess my point is that gardening and entry-level-grocery are completely fine and expected experience for a 22 year old; but that no 22 year old could have the experience to do well as a leader in terror prevention. So, there’s a distinction between criticizing the absence of experience (justified), vs criticizing someone for having actual experience in an unrelated field (bullshit).
AOC isn’t 22. So where did he get experience to run such a department at 22 with no relevant job? No leadership, no military, no geopolical, nothing. It’s like me leading an agency about anime. My knowledge of anime ends at the point that I know it exists. At 22 you can only get experience with terrorism by being military. Even if you’re a rigorous and studious person, there’s no way you can understand terrorism unless you’ve dealt with it personally.
For example, most of the suicide bomb attacks in Iraq weren’t psychotic religious extremists. Most of them were pressured by the actual terrorists. They would kidnap or threaten their families to make them do it. Others were poor, destitute individuals who were promised that upon completion of their “mission” that their family would be rewarded with a large payout. This isn’t uncommon even in the West. It gets underreported because in the West it usually manifests in a different way. My own grandpa repeatedly expressed concerns of not leaving his family enough before he took his own life and he tested rockets for NASA.so it’s not exclusive to the Middle East to hold your family above yourself.
That level of understanding of the motive simply doesn’t exist at 22, especially if you’ve never left the states. If you want to stop something, literally anything, you have to understand WHY it’s happening. I don’t wrench on my engine when the brakes are locked up, because I understand how the machine works. Terrorism is far more complicated than a vehicle, and it’s an absolute requirement to have experience in it to understand it. It isn’t the age, it’s the experience.
I’mma quote from the post you responded to, maybe you can help me see what I’m missing.
…I guess my point is that gardening and entry-level-grocery are completely fine and expected experience for a 22 year old; but that no 22 year old could have the experience to do well as a leader in terror prevention. So, there’s a distinction between criticizing the absence of experience (justified), vs criticizing someone for having actual experience in an unrelated field (bullshit).
You say your point and their point are different, and I’m not seeing the differences? From my end, it looks like you’re saying the same thing, just with different words.
I’m in between work from layoffs. I started at a grocery store because i needed healthcare and it’s a union job. It’s shit work. And I exhausting. But by no means is it disrespectful work. Who the fuck is going to feed everyone?
The problem here is that it’s irrelevant experience. It’s absolutely a respectable job, but that doesn’t make you capable of leading a task force. I have a respectable job, I’ve never been involved in the film industry at all, beyond watching. So should I be the CEO of universal?
Do you think by working at a grocery store makes you capable of farming?
Also, as a former bartender, there is a lot of politics involved in that job. You’re in charge of a bunch of (hopefully temporary) morons. There’s risk assessment and mediation happening, controlling a bunch of people who are adverse to rules and being told no. Geopolitics isn’t that far from breaking up a fight in a bar. But he doesn’t have any of that comparable experience.
Obvious lack of experience and not qualified for the position.
Completely irrelevant, and not something to criticize. God forbid people get a shit starter job when they’re joining the work force.
The rise from starter job to top government official usually includes things like gaining experience, having some success, being a noteworthy professional in some way…
Not… Nothing?
Listing previous work is pretty standard when getting a job, also shows his prior qualifications which I think we’re entitled to know.
The lack of experience is worthy of criticism; but the “Ex-Gardener and Grocery Store Assistant” is presented as not worthy of respect. Which is bullshit.
It has the same air as some trumpanzee dipshit trying to insult AOC by calling her a ‘bartender’, as though having been a bartender makes her unqualified for her current position, which is similarly bullshit.
Gardeners, store assistants, and bartenders all contribute to our society and shouldn’t be looked down on for their role; nor should that role be held against them when they decide to move on to something else.
…I guess my point is that gardening and entry-level-grocery are completely fine and expected experience for a 22 year old; but that no 22 year old could have the experience to do well as a leader in terror prevention. So, there’s a distinction between criticizing the absence of experience (justified), vs criticizing someone for having actual experience in an unrelated field (bullshit).
If this story was this:
Ex Gardner and grocery store assistant tapped to become retail manager at H&M, no one, yourself included, would bat an eye.
The only reason it even sticks out is because everyone inherently knows those things are not relevant at all to the position.
Any negative spin on those things you are ascribing yourself.
The combination of being 22 with only those jobs as relevant experience is bad. Very bad.
Those jobs in and of themselves are fine. We are all capable of nuance. I don’t hate gardeners or grocery store workers, they’re all generally great.
AOC isn’t 22. So where did he get experience to run such a department at 22 with no relevant job? No leadership, no military, no geopolical, nothing. It’s like me leading an agency about anime. My knowledge of anime ends at the point that I know it exists. At 22 you can only get experience with terrorism by being military. Even if you’re a rigorous and studious person, there’s no way you can understand terrorism unless you’ve dealt with it personally.
For example, most of the suicide bomb attacks in Iraq weren’t psychotic religious extremists. Most of them were pressured by the actual terrorists. They would kidnap or threaten their families to make them do it. Others were poor, destitute individuals who were promised that upon completion of their “mission” that their family would be rewarded with a large payout. This isn’t uncommon even in the West. It gets underreported because in the West it usually manifests in a different way. My own grandpa repeatedly expressed concerns of not leaving his family enough before he took his own life and he tested rockets for NASA.so it’s not exclusive to the Middle East to hold your family above yourself.
That level of understanding of the motive simply doesn’t exist at 22, especially if you’ve never left the states. If you want to stop something, literally anything, you have to understand WHY it’s happening. I don’t wrench on my engine when the brakes are locked up, because I understand how the machine works. Terrorism is far more complicated than a vehicle, and it’s an absolute requirement to have experience in it to understand it. It isn’t the age, it’s the experience.
I’m confused, this reads like an argument, but you’re making the same point.
I’m not, AOC had some life behind her when she was elected. This dude doesn’t. And wasn’t elected.
I’mma quote from the post you responded to, maybe you can help me see what I’m missing.
Where does your argument contradict that?
I guess I am failing to understand your question with what I said. Can you word it another way?
You say your point and their point are different, and I’m not seeing the differences? From my end, it looks like you’re saying the same thing, just with different words.
I’m in between work from layoffs. I started at a grocery store because i needed healthcare and it’s a union job. It’s shit work. And I exhausting. But by no means is it disrespectful work. Who the fuck is going to feed everyone?
The problem here is that it’s irrelevant experience. It’s absolutely a respectable job, but that doesn’t make you capable of leading a task force. I have a respectable job, I’ve never been involved in the film industry at all, beyond watching. So should I be the CEO of universal? Do you think by working at a grocery store makes you capable of farming?
Entirely agree. Kid is out of his element! Godcdamn it. Donny!
Also, as a former bartender, there is a lot of politics involved in that job. You’re in charge of a bunch of (hopefully temporary) morons. There’s risk assessment and mediation happening, controlling a bunch of people who are adverse to rules and being told no. Geopolitics isn’t that far from breaking up a fight in a bar. But he doesn’t have any of that comparable experience.
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