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Might as well start with a solid foundation from the start though. The extra work is minimal so there isn’t much of a time cost to it. I wouldn’t call it overengineering, it’s just a different way to write code, and the way many naturally default to without really thinking about it.

I get the point the author is coming from. When I was teaching first year engineering students programming, the one on the left is how everyone would write, it’s simply how human intuitively think about a process.

However, the one on the right feels more robust to me. For non trivial processes with multiple branches, it can ugly real quick if you haven’t isolated functionalities into smaller functions. The issue is never when you are first writing the function, but when you’re debugging or coming back to make changes.

What if you’re told the new Italian chef wants to have 15 different toppings, not just 2. He also got 3 new steps that must be done to prepare the dough before you can bake the pizza, and the heat of the oven will now depend on the different dough used. My first instinct if my code was the one on the left, would be to refactor it to make room for the new functionality. With the one on the right, the framework is already set and you can easily add new functions for preparing the dough and make a few changes to addToppings() and bake()

If I feel too lazy to write “proper” code and just make one big function for a process, I often end up regretting it and refactoring it into smaller, more manageable functions once I get back to the project the next day. It’s simply easier to wrap your head around

bakePizza() 
box()```
than reading the entire function and look for comments to mark each important step. The pizza got burned? Better take a look at `bakePizza()` then.

All it took for me to switch to GitLab was a larger free lfs quota which I wanted for a project. The superior webpage UI made me migrate every old project to it too.

I assume you meant that both Rust and C compiles into machine code? Python compiles into bytecode that is then run in a VM, Rust and C usually doesn’t do that as far as I know.

I was mostly curious if it was as easy as in C. Turun’s reply answered that question though. Cheers.

Interesting stuff, might give me an excuse to look into rust in the future. Thanks!

Could you elaborate on that point? Is it as smooth as using C?

Tabs work fine, you aren’t allowed to mix, indentation must be consistent.

It’d honestly the funniest thing I’ve read on this instance. Puts programmer humour to shame. Love it when developers finds the jankiest/unconventional way to solve problems.

You genuinely think it’s faster to make a Web query, wait for search results to show up, click and wait for the correct webpage to load, navigate to the download page, download the exe, run the exe and go through the pop up menu than it is to type apt install x?

Clean code would have indentation though, and you can use whatever space you want as indentation. Bonus points if you use tabs so that others with special needs can configure the tab length on their end.

And I don’t think I’ve encountered an indentation error since the day I learned the language. How often do you encounter that error when writing python scripts? Sounds more like a theoretical problem than something anyone used to python would encounter.

I’ve never understood the complaint about forced indentation. What kind of monster doesn’t use indentation for their code anyway?

If anything, it’s nice that the language forces it on you so that you don’t stumble on code written by one of those monsters.

Salty? I listed a bunch of games that are clearly made by passionate developers and have been part of defining of defining the space in recent history. You are the one leaving a snarky comment that I listed less than 1 percent of games as if that proves anything.

Mate, you’re not John Carmack. It would be a ridiculous assumption to think their developers didn’t take a serious look into optimisation before deciding to ignore the xbox ecosystem for initial launch.

Sorry for not combing through every major release since tetris and making a perfectly objective list of every good game of which most them I’ve never even seen gameplay of.

How many exceptions do you need before it no longer being an exception, 50%?

Witcher 3, the Last of Us (ps3), Baldurs Gate 3, God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, Elden Ring, Read Dead Redemption 2 (offline), Zelda, etc…

There are plenty of triple A games that were well received that didn’t involve gambling and mtx.