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  • If its not so bad, then why is your literal job to train people how to get through it? If it were easy to ignore, then people wouldn’t need training, no?

    It’s not a fun experience, but again it will not stop a determined aggressor. It will deter someone who isn’t all that invested in whatever, but it won’t physically stop them.

    The training is literally just exposure training- we have them hit each other with OC spray and then the person who got sprayed gets to work through cuffing the other up. (They trade off.) the reason for this is two things-

    1. if you use OC or any other kind of spray, you will be exposed.
    2. it teaches you that *it isn’t that bad and you can still function.

    By temporarily blinding them and basically lighting their face on fire, obviously

    Incorrect. It doesn’t technically blind anyone. OC is a chemical agent that triggers thermal receptors to create a burning sensations. When it gets in the eye, the body responds by flushing the eye- making you cry.

    Again this is not something that incapacitates- any one who’s been exposed can and will remain a threat, same as anyone who is on something or just angry enough or desperate enough.

    This is why no cop in the world engages someone with lethal weapons with mace.


  • No.

    It won’t.

    All pepper spray is, is an irritant. I personally train people on a monthly basis to work through it. I’ve personally seen people- including teenage kids- angry enough, or on something, or having just been exposed enough- that it does nothing.

    Pepper spray isn’t a restraint, or an incapacitant. Its sole use is in pissing people off, breaking up drunken crowds, or harassing protestors.

    Additionally, pepper spray is fundamentally designed to spread and contaminate everything in the vicinity- including those kids you care sooo much about.

    You know what does stop gun violence? Gun control and mental health programs.








  • I’d like to see the source that says Dragon’s WER in the 90s was 3-5%. I used Dragon in the 2000s and it just wasn’t comparable to the current state of the art.

    https://dragon-medical-transcription.com/history_speech_recognition.html, for example. a lot of adverts and awards were given to it (admittedly awards like PC Mag that were probably paid advertising… but that’s why I went with Open AI’s assessment on whisper at 2%.) Dragon was boasting 99% accuracy after (admittedly months) of training; and it frequently reached it. there were some gotchas in that- the months-long training was a big one. The other was that you frequently had to slow down and be careful to enunciate that you don’t have to do with modern systems (including the MS versions of Dragon- they bought it out at some point)

    whisper.cpp is an opensource implementation, although I’m not certain exactly how open.

    It’s on the MIT license, if that helps. I take issue with anything OpenAI is involved in. for oh-so-many reasons.


  • You’re only partially correct about input speed. If you want to dictate an email then yes you need to think about each word you want to say and the order in which to say them. Coupled with an LLM that problem is diminished because you can just kind of have a conversation with the LLM and tell it to draft an email.

    and how much of that conversation with an LLM is “No, what I want is…” because it assumed something; or just straight up hallucinated or the typo made it go off on a tangent?

    As for whisper, I can find sources that are saying for American-English speakers in a not-noisy environment (aka the best case scenario,) the model has a word error rate between 2-8%. For reference, Dragon NaturallySpeaking had a WER of 3-5%. So I wouldn’t say that Whisper has made any substantial improvements, and they’re OpenAi. you can trust them if you want. I don’t think that’ll work out well in the long run, though.


  • I remember Dragon SpeechDragon Naturally Speaking saying the same thing in the 90’s. It’s improved, but not enough to make it useful as more than an aide for people who can’t type. I do agree, that for simple accessibility, it should be integrated into every field, but I doubt it’s ever going to take over.

    As others have noted, that it’s only technically true that dictation is faster than typing. In a practical sense, there’s a fair number of reasons why that’s not the case, including that usually thinking about the entry is what’s the slowest, and also the errors in both are typically what slows people down.

    there’s also the problem of, for example, keeping entries confidential. You don’t want to speak your passwords where others can hear you.