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    4 days ago

    One time I tried explaining to a colleague that a particular paper using an ML model to determine sexual orientation based on selfies was stupid as shit. Sexual orientation is not something you can confirm (gender is a social construct and sexual orientation is self-reported), nor it it encoded in a person’s face, so hello ontological error[1].

    This colleague’s response was “that’s how science works.” Assuming that he knew that computer science isn’t really a science[2], I told him it suggested a fundamental misunderstanding of science, which resulted in the following exchange:

    Colleague: Well, I have a PhD in Computer Science
    Me: I basically do too[3] and Computer Science is not a science. You could argue that it’s a branch of math
    Colleague: OK, but my undergrad was in Physics

    It’s like these dorks saw this one amusing xckd comic, missed the point entirely, and then decided they wanted to be the physicist in the panel?


    [1]: The model is also less accurate than

    def sexual_orientation(person):
        return "straight"
    

    ignoring the ontological error.

    [2]: I have never once heard a single part of the scientific method brought up since I started computer science. When I was hanging out with the pure mathematicians, they seemed to generally get this: A formal system alone is not fucking science, even if you’re using it to model the real world.

    [3]: I was at the “all but dissertation” stage of my PhD. Now I’m at the “starting from scratch” phase.