NGL, this is a power move. Governments around Europe are looking HARD at their presence on Twitter. They might actually jump ship. This is why we have to continue pushing Mastodon.
People don’t like change. It’s a short-sighted but understandable view to think “no, I don’t want new people to come in and change things, I like it how it is!”
If I understand you correctly, you’re saying that governments might leave Twitter for threads and we should push so they use mastodon instead? Assuming that is what you mean, I don’t think that makes any sense.
For one, I don’t think government accounts are a main driver for social media users. No one ever said “I only use this service if the UK government has an account there”. Governments go where the accounts are.
For another, you can push all you want, if it’s not something that people want to use it’s not going to work. Our best hope is for threads to actually implement activity pub and then being able to use other apps and servers, while still being connected to the “rest of the world”.
the way i see it is the fediverse is email and threads is gmail. it’s why i never understood why there was such a push by some to automatically defederate from threads before it even launched. threads is probably the best chance that the fediverse has to become mainstream, even if people using threads don’t even know they’re on the fediverse.
As an example, if Reddit decided to implement activitypub and federate with Lemmy, 99.9% of the content would now be coming from reddit users and you’d basically never see anything else. At that point, why not just go back to Reddit?
The counter argument to this is that the government’s public communication should be accessible to everyone. Government messages should be visible to the public without them having to register and log in. That is becoming increasingly more difficult in corporate social media, especially Meta’s - Instagram and FB are good indicators.
The advantage of the fediverse isn’t just that you can view public messages without registering. If you need to subscribe to something, you can do so from any fediverse platform - no need for another new account. This leaves it open for the government to choose or even host their own fediverse platform - something many governments are already doing.
Oh I’m not arguing with you there, I think activity pub should absolutely be used by governments one way or another. If for nothing else than hosting their own content.
Oh! I was not arguing either. I meant ‘counter argument’ as in justification. Points to argue a case for governments to choose the fediverse. Fediverse has no one other than its devs and users to argue for it.
NGL, this is a power move. Governments around Europe are looking HARD at their presence on Twitter. They might actually jump ship. This is why we have to continue pushing Mastodon.
But all of the elitists on Mastodon really don’t help persuade anyone that it’s worth using in a professional capacity
It’s so weird, it’s like they want to keep people away more than anything else
There are a lot of people on the Fediverse like that.
People don’t like change. It’s a short-sighted but understandable view to think “no, I don’t want new people to come in and change things, I like it how it is!”
If I understand you correctly, you’re saying that governments might leave Twitter for threads and we should push so they use mastodon instead? Assuming that is what you mean, I don’t think that makes any sense.
For one, I don’t think government accounts are a main driver for social media users. No one ever said “I only use this service if the UK government has an account there”. Governments go where the accounts are.
For another, you can push all you want, if it’s not something that people want to use it’s not going to work. Our best hope is for threads to actually implement activity pub and then being able to use other apps and servers, while still being connected to the “rest of the world”.
the way i see it is the fediverse is email and threads is gmail. it’s why i never understood why there was such a push by some to automatically defederate from threads before it even launched. threads is probably the best chance that the fediverse has to become mainstream, even if people using threads don’t even know they’re on the fediverse.
See Eternal September.
As an example, if Reddit decided to implement activitypub and federate with Lemmy, 99.9% of the content would now be coming from reddit users and you’d basically never see anything else. At that point, why not just go back to Reddit?
thats not really different than the majority of traffic on mastodon being mastodon.social.
The counter argument to this is that the government’s public communication should be accessible to everyone. Government messages should be visible to the public without them having to register and log in. That is becoming increasingly more difficult in corporate social media, especially Meta’s - Instagram and FB are good indicators.
The advantage of the fediverse isn’t just that you can view public messages without registering. If you need to subscribe to something, you can do so from any fediverse platform - no need for another new account. This leaves it open for the government to choose or even host their own fediverse platform - something many governments are already doing.
Oh I’m not arguing with you there, I think activity pub should absolutely be used by governments one way or another. If for nothing else than hosting their own content.
Oh! I was not arguing either. I meant ‘counter argument’ as in justification. Points to argue a case for governments to choose the fediverse. Fediverse has no one other than its devs and users to argue for it.