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How many disks did this come on, haha? Like 40?

You can call it whatever you want. Email has been around since the 70s. Bluesky and ActivityPub sure have not.

Your rephrasing changed it qualitatively. Of course it takes no position on whether Lemmy is part of the Fediverse considering it now does not have the word Fediverse in it.

The mention of email is

Even so, much like how users of one email service such as Gmail can still send emails to users of another service such as Outlook, users may still view content and interact with users on any other instance in the fediverse

which implicitly says email is not considered part of the fediverse by comparing the two.

The others listed are bluesky, nostra and farcast. I suppose we could count protocols that nobody uses…

Fediverse is ActivityPub. Email is not, though the theory is somewhat similar.

I’ve had pine needle tea before. It’s pretty good.

Sega used this in their pioneering MMO from ~1999, Phantasy Star Online. “Beat Time”. The idea was to help you coordinate meeting times with people regardless of time zone. The problem was we had to convert it to regular time to have any idea when 725 beats was or how long 150 beats from now was.

I spent way too much time on Trexels for a while… silly little mobile resource management game. It became more ridiculous when I figured out you could cheat by changing the clock on your phone.

This is probably before your time, but it’s like when Usenet was opened to AOL subscribers. Just a giant flood of stupid people. Thankfully, we can defederate.

Other than that and what I mentioned about server resources, many people are here because we don’t like centralized corporate social media. Being connected to a meta service is against the principles of many on the Fediverse. Meta also might try to influence the protocol or open source projects based on it, and as you said, EE&E.

There’s a chance it could actually be good for mastodon and lemmy since there’s a good bit of publicity about it, and people could realize they don’t have to use meta and threads and could just directly use mastodon.

How could meta do that? The issue is that they’re adding federation to connect Threads to mastodon, Lemmy, Kbin and other systems that use it. Like any other instance though, administrators have the option to defederate, and I expect most will. Many already preemptively have them on their block list. If nothing else, it’s expected that being federated with threads would be very intensive in terms of storage and cpu resources, so it wouldn’t be feasible for most instance operators to be connected to them. Plus, it’s unpopular with most users. Meta does not have any control over the open source project or individual instances.

Not quite the same but there’s a place in Denver that makes sweet potato vodka. So… I guess fermenting them works, which isn’t surprising. Since it is vodka it doesn’t really have a flavor of course.

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Quickly go to page 5?

Let’s say 2/100 of your country’s primary monetary unit. No reason to be US centric.

If you’re using the website, the list of federated (or not) instances is on the menu at the bottom of each page, “Instances”.

Hmm, well sometime when I looked at that I also saw a list of explicitly blocked instances. Maybe that was on sh.itjust.works.

For the audiences (i.e. content creators who would want websites) I have in mind, it has to be dead simple to set up, like a Twitter or Instagram profile. Anything that involves sftp, ssh or configuring nginx isn’t going to work. Pretty much, automated installers and GUIs.

I think people are increasingly seeing the value in owning their online identity - if you’re nixed by the Etsy algorithm or they or OG delete your account you’re pretty much screwed. Email marketing has stayed steady and is increasing in popularity for that reason as you actually own your customer list.

I tried to find a solution to the issue you bring up years ago when I was an admin on an art discussion forum. The owner wanted to find a way to sustain the site and bring in revenue, and I saw the problem of how people had their digital identities and promotion spread out across 4-5 different websites. My idea at the time was a profile site which would be a central place listing everywhere someone could view or buy your artwork. This was before linktree etc (around 2013) so in retrospect, it was a pretty decent idea. At this point, software has advanced a lot but the problem remains the same, as you describe. I think Lemmy and ActivityPub in general is a viable solution to that. People post on Instagram and Twitter because they provide broad distribution potential. Lack of true ownership is a real drawback, though. Platforms like Shopify are great and very sophisticated, but they’re also turning up the screws (a recent price increase to $40 a month for the basic membership, for example).

The way to get people to use it is of course to build easy to use, powerful software, of course. I suppose this is a decent idea for a project I could work on.

Yeah, I think you’re exactly right. They expect that they won’t be able to understand or act on any sort of computer problem. That’s what I was hoping people would figure out from experience - that they don’t have to be scared to read it, click around and give it a try.

I dealt with similar things when we had a fairly busy website back in the PHP/MySQL days, around 2008-09. My business partner was a great designer but not technical at all, and was a bit uptight about our site. She didn’t report imaginary problems, but if there was any sort of service interruption she’d act like it was the end of the world and stress me out about it even more than i was already stressed. I still wonder whether it would have been better to just run the site by myself.

Ha! I have the exact same issue with people and dialogues, like “Okay… did you read it? What did it say?” Somehow they don’t seem to understand that there are words on the screen which are there to tell them information.