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  • What you’re saying is “inevitable” hasn’t happened for the entire 20+ years of Steam.

    Something being “inevitable” by definition means it will eventually happen, but has not already occurred.

    Steam’s monopoly is actually what’s holding PC gaming together.

    “Steam good. Steam has monopoly. Therefore, monopoly good.”

    Woof.




  • Well, they’re a game developer. And they own GOG. GOG as a subsidiary is a digital distributor of prepackaged digital content. Developing a system that allows people to find a digital item, pay for it, and then download it, is hilariously, vastly different than developing a compatibility layer for games developed for one operating system to run on another. Like…the former is straight up just basic web development. The latter is hardcore systems programming. They are worlds apart.


  • This is not “a prediction” - this is inevitably what’s going to happen.

    Everyone here who has drank the Valve kool-aid and pretends like they can do no wrong is dangerously short-sighted. Steam’s virtual monopoly on PC gaming is a huge issue. You think Epic has a monopoly on the concept of “Store Exclusives?” Fucking spare me. It’s a matter of time before Steam locks in its own exclusives, kills Proton, and locks every. single. game. behind always online DRM.

    If you want to distribute your new PC game, guess what? You don’t get to contract with both GOG and Steam. You don’t get to say your game is Linux compatible because it runs well in the Proton compatibility layer. Oh, and if you say “games could run on Linux before Proton!” then you’re deluding yourself by remembering a time when games were distributed with their own launcher and weren’t packed to the gills with platform specific code so that the game integrates seamlessly with a specific third-party launcher and its DRM tools. You bought a Steamdeck? Cool. The version of Arch it runs is no longer supported. You have to upgrade to “Windows for Steameck.” Yes, you have to pay for a fucking Windows license. Yes, it has fewer features than baseline Windows. No, it’s not less expensive.

    You think what’s happening to YouTube is bad? Fucking strap in, boys. Welcome to digital content distribution in the age of unfettered capitalism. I wonder how many of you are gonna eat this shit up, huff lethal quantities of copium, and say it’s “not that bad” once it starts happening and you’re faced with either standing by your own stated convictions and giving up almost all PC gaming in general or bend the knee so you can get your precious Steam Library back. Probably most of you.


  • it alleged that local developers cannot compete on Steam with international developers, because those do not have to apply the local regulations:

    That’s not really contrary to the point, but orthogonal to it. Steam is outcompeting on the basis that it receives special privileges on the basis of its international status. It’s still outcompeting because of a resource advantage. But that advantage exists because domestic developers are disadvantaged by virtue of national regulations over domestic developers.

    what is my opposition that doesn’t encompass a de facto defence of free market capitalism? The damage to the users. What about all the Vietnamese people losing access to Steam’s online features, which are arguably necessary nowadays for many games, especially multiplayer ones.

    Your argument is the same kind of “consumer rights” argument that I’ve seen everywhere on the internet, because you are implying that there is material harm to the people of Vietnam caused by Steam’s banning. Which is a fairly specious argument. It’s the loss of a luxury item. No one is materially harmed by it. It’s not like Vietnam banned insulin. And while you may not use the same language, you are effectively saying that every consumer on the planet should have free access to the best products available for whatever “thing” they want. In this case, video games. It’s a de facto argument for free market economic policies.



  • It is impossible to criticize any actions taking place by any entity against a capitalist entity without defending capitalism yourself.

    It depends on the purpose and shape of that criticism. If you criticize a communist nation banning a particular corporation’s marketplace from their country on the basis that doing so is a part of a grift that seeks to engineer a national-level monopoly over a particular corporate sector by banning external competition, then, sure, that’s a valid criticism because the intent is innately unethical. But if the Vietnamese video game industry is actively harmed by Steam, an American company, using its vast resources to outcompete Vietnamese publishers, then what is your opposition to this that doesn’t encompass a de facto defense of free market capitalism?




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    Valve has faced criticisms from former employees in the past for its toxic work culture. And Gabe Newell, being the CEO, has a lot of power over that.

    Just because the places you frequent on the internet don’t shove criticism of Valve down your throat the same way it would do so for, say, Epic Games, doesn’t mean there’s nothing wrong with Valve as a company. All the pro-Valve/Steam information you get and the general sentiment towards Gabe Newell from people on Lemmy and Reddit are pure, undiluted corporate propaganda. That it comes from Steam users rather than being something Steam directs and pays for doesn’t change what it is.

    you’re seeing different posts by different people and conflating the two

    This ignores the reality that Lemmy is, at least in the part of it consisting of lemmy.ml, lemmy.world, and others, overwhelmingly leftist. This comment also attempts to dismiss the underlying criticism that Lemmy as a whole has a culture that, much like reddit, seeks to pick and choose its targets under capitalism and actively engages in corporate apologia, like in this post, while collectively professing a broad ethos that is outright hypocritical when viewed in the light of that other behavior. And if you think Lemmy is amenable to a diverse array of economic opinions, then maybe you should try posting a “Capitalism Appreciation Thread” on a major lemmy instance and see how that goes over.



  • unless you’re not capable of figuring out how to share Jellyfin servers securely

    For me, it’s not about figuring out how, but rather not wanting to remotely host either a Jellyfin server or a remote proxy into to your local server. I like keeping everything in a walled garden, only accessible via Tailscale or, if I want to share my Plex server access, via Plex’s interface, which is pretty secure. Also, my friends that I do share Plex access with are all accessing it via a Plex app on smart tvs, which tragically have little or limited support for Jellyfin (which you admittedly mention). I have a lot of respect for Jellyfin, but the service Plex offers is, in my opinion, well worth the money you pay for it.


  • I’m not. Universities aren’t places of open or free learning. They’re deeply invested in capitalism and benefit greatly from intellectual property laws. In fact, most universities function largely as state subsidized pipelines that take people without a viable, real world skill set and turn them into people who still don’t have a viable real world skill set, but who do have a piece of paper telling corporations that they’re able and willing to put up with complete bullshit, general mistreatment, and dull, grueling labor for years without incident. Which is good enough for your typical middle-class wage slave and whatever they might want to do.


  • Sure, but the VPN alone is only a partial solution - if your computer is on the same tailscale VPN as your plex server, you can create a peer to peer connection without plex pass. But for third party apps - like a smart TV or a Roku or whatever - those don’t have tailscale clients and they probably never will. Which means you would have to produce some kind of extra solution, like utilizing a raspberry pi or other portable micro pc that can bind to the tailscale network but also project video to the television. Which is very clunky. Right now, I feel like there is no drop in replacement for Plex if you want to share you server with friends or family while also maximizing your own security and keeping self-hosting costs to a “minimum.”


  • I actually do both. Friends and family who are on the plex aren’t on the tailscale network. But my personal clients are. I mean, not all of them. You obviously can’t add a Roku stick or a smart TV to a tailscale network. Not trivially, of course. Maybe you could custom engineer a solution, but it might not be worth the effort. As I said in a previous comment, though, the best solution might be a dedicated cloud VM that serves as a reverse proxy into your network and which forwards traffic - either by having them both on the same tailnet and one just forwards traffic on specific ports, specifically plex’s - or a reverse SSH tunnel. If I had to do it, I’d probably go the first route. Still, the network traffic costs might make doing that prohibitive. But it also might not. I haven’t looked into it.


  • What’s your hosting solution for external access? I’m asking because right now, Plex has a lot going for it in terms of allowing me to securely host my own server and share it with the people I want who are outside my network without actually having to open up ports or compromise my network security in any way. I couldn’t imagine hosting costs on a cloud VM for a decently sized, fairly actively used media server, assuming you wanted to go that route. I guess you could set up a reverse proxy on a cloud VM and forward traffic into your local network, but then there’s still the added network traffic costs for your VM.