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  • Yes, it seems we do have different ideas of the word medieval. To me, medieval is not an abstract idea, it’s a specific period in European history. To be medieval a setting has to bear significant resemblance to that period.

    This is not medieval. It’s very ornate but it bears no resemblance whatsoever to medieval art or architecture. If anything, it’s closer to Victorian than medieval. Everything I’ve seen in HK screenshots tells me it’s a fantasy pastiche of elements. It has no affinity with any particular period in human culture. Rather, it’s a cut-and-paste construction. (I hate the word appropriation because it implies theft. I do not want to imply that).

    Like if a fantasy game is set on Mars with a bunch of green skinned Martians as characters then it’s not medieval even if the characters use Anglo-Saxon instead of English. It’s a pastiche of science fiction, fantasy, and medieval elements and it suffers from the same issue that a lot of bad Star Trek episodes had (see: planet of hats), which is verisimilitude:

    Why did this society, which otherwise seems completely alien, just happen to evolve a conspicuous element that’s uncannily similar to an element in human history?










  • My argument isn’t about how we’re classifying and counting desktop operating system installs. I know how we’re doing that. I’m saying it’s stupid and doesn’t make any sense to count that way if your goal is to grow this community of Linux users.

    Most desktop Windows users don’t belong to a community of enthusiasts. For them, Windows is just a tool they use at work and in many cases hate using. Microsoft doesn’t care about community-building at all.

    For Linux it’s different. Linux has both a community of enthusiast users and a number of large companies who use and package Linux as part of a product and service offering. Valve and Google are 2 such companies. Neither of them care about the broader Linux community. Their goal is to make money using SteamOS and Android respectively. For them, Linux is just a tool to save them money on development costs: an off-the-shelf, royalty-free operating system to build on. The vast majority of Android and SteamOS users will never interact with the Linux underpinnings of their respective OSes, never mind coming to participate in this community!

    The fact that SteamOS users count as desktop market share and Android users don’t (also: what about Chromebooks running ChromeOS?) should not matter at all to us, just as I don’t care that one of the printers at work runs Windows on its print queue server and the other runs Linux.




  • That doesn’t really matter to the point I’m making. Some Android users do things like install AOSP after building it themselves from source or install one of many custom open source Android distributions such as LineageOS or YAAP. I would consider this type of person much more of a Linux user than a person who buys a SteamDeck and just plays games on it.

    The key difference for me is that a Linux user is aware of the open source movement around Linux and at least engages in some aspect of the open source community. They don’t have to become a software developer or a contributor or even a hacker. They just have to be aware of the fact that they’re using Linux (regardless of the name of the distribution they’re using), that Linux is open source, and that they can (and do, at least in some small way) exercise some of the freedoms of open source that are afforded to them.

    A person who buys a SteamDeck and merely plays games on it might be aware that it’s running Linux (they might’ve heard it from someone else) but if they don’t care about that and don’t engage with any of the things that make it Linux then they might as well be using a proprietary OS (or even using a dishwasher with Linux on it for that matter).


  • Yes but what I’m getting at here is much more cultural than technical. While we all applaud the growth of Linux that doesn’t necessarily translate into more people who are actually “Linux users” like the type of folks who would join this community.

    Someone who simply runs SteamOS on a computer or handheld just so they can play games (basically a game console) doesn’t actually care that they’re running Linux and doesn’t actually learn anything about Linux, so I wouldn’t consider them a Linux user anymore than I would for an Android user.