If you say anything bad about linux, or star trek, or github, you get downvoted to hell

If not simply moderated out of the community because ‘fostering dialogue is an important goal’.

It actually being a durian would have been too on the nose.

Pretty sure all Western Nations being ‘called out’ in this article have codified Freedom of Speech, Religion, and Press in their list of rights (charter/bill/constitution/etc…).

your deranged, antiquated ideals of what people are or aren’t allowed to say

Gee I wonder what this statement allows people to infer about who you are, what kind of nation you’re really from, and what your real agenda is.

Not in a million years. Not only are all the uses of speech cited within covered by the 1A, but the American government wouldn’t let the UN prosecute actual US war criminals let alone reporting agencies not sounding pro-palestinian enough.

What are you looking at because the instance list shows lemmy.ml using a Beta version, and isn’t the only one.

Dozens are using 19.5 which appears to be the latest stable version. Consider a couple of recent stable versions caused a lot of headaches for users and admins I think waiting to see if a newer ‘stable’ version is actually stable, let alone volunteering to test experimental versions in situ is prudent.

Here’s some more reading for you.

It’s not a matter of ‘being upset with a moderator’s decision’. Moderators are overstepping their mandate and it is a problem. Say something rude? Banned? Fine. Obviously against the rules. Politely say anything a core clique in that community disagrees with, factual or not, and there’s a non-zero chance you get your comment deleted at best because a mod+ disagrees, and it happens way too often.

But how is that different from any other website?

In other places there are extrinsic factors that influence how moderation is done. Reddit for example is concerned first and foremost with ensuring it is a place Ad agencies are comfortable working with. Reddit would strip moderators of their roles specifically because they weren’t doing their job right, and upsetting the community or ad agencies. More to the point: they have a Code of Conduct that is standardized for the ENTIRE platform. (AFAICT the problem with the mods being so problematic here is likely due to this mass exodus of incompetent mods from Reddit, but that is a hypothesis that needs further testing and out of my ability to research.)

At best this whole problem is that the Mods can’t be bothered to actually investigate reports, likely due to inadequate mod tools. Someone reports misinformation, or a troll, or rudeness and the accused gets punished with zero thought as to the veracity of the claim. I do not think that is it though. There are a couple mods who have a MO of abusing mod powers after verbally abusing a user just to get the final word, at least that I am aware of or experienced first hand.

And finally, I find the argument to ‘join the cartel of corrupt Mods if you don’t like it’… counterproductive. I personally do not want full control of moderation. I want moderation to be regulated/standardized because Lemmy atm is very much like the Old West.

It’s not nearly as bad as you make it sound, but you are right that the OG is better than generic tools you need to configure

That is the list.

Ublock origin requires Filters that you can select from a provided list, or enter in/download yourself.

Noscript (likely redundant but I don’t know how to use Ublock to do this) lets you select which scripts a site runs and disable whichever ones are necessary to clean the page of garbage/reveal the article.

Every page is different and changes so it isn’t perfect but once you are familiar with how it works you can ‘Pick’ blocking boxes to automatically create a filter that removes the box (on reload) if necessary.

Tragic, but this functionality can still be done with Ublock origin and/or Noscript extensions

Really, I need citations for a post that already provides an example? Just pick a server and look at the modlogs keyword: misinfo. Here’s a salient example:

Luckily then they’re not the “arbiters of truth” for the platform…

That’s actually a part of the problem. The complete lack of responsibility or accountability for anyone on here. Like it or not all it takes is a handful of self-righteous admins to ruin it for the entire platform. What you tout as a Good is quite the opposite in the long run.

That’s besides the point. Censorships on Lemmy is rampant and borderline oppressive. Posting an inoffensive news article in a forum that automatically allows the community to evaluate a 3rd party’s criticism(s) of that agencies credibility should be more than sufficient.

These non-experts declaring themselves the arbiters of truth is an embarrassment for the platform and need to be dealt with before it gets abandoned.

I even agree that Cradle is shit, but to end any possibility of discussion, in flagrant opposition to Lemmy’s ENTIRE PURPOSE just creates empty echo chambers

The more I spend time on Lemmy, the more I think it is in a lot of trouble. There are many serious issues that need to be addressed and I don’t see how most of them can be.

Federation is touted as a Good, but has many drawbacks. Privacy (as listed in this post for example) for one, instead of algorithm curated/focused content federated servers each enforce (subconsciously or overtly) a theme, rampant user generation off multiple servers rendering moderation pointless, and so on.

Then there is the rampant issue of moderation abuse. It seems that the only reason to be a moderator is to not be annoyed at other people forcing their opinions on you. This reminder that admins/mods get yet another way to subject the users to their biases is the nail in the coffin IMO. “You vote this way? Banned because my feelings matter more”.

Privacy is important for a lot of people and that is impossible to get on Lemmy unless something drastically changes, but it doesn’t sound like this is will ever happen. The people that can see your data is not under your control at all and I think this fact alone will never allow Lemmy to grow to a place we can be happy with.

If admins can see data without limits, everyone should be able to. All 5 of us once that realization sinks in.

;tldr I don’t think even admins should see peoples data but that seems impossible so…

This is expected from the Steam Forums. Moderation there is assigned by the software owners and so criticism is suppressed more often then not.

There are news articles and whole Youtube channels predicated on the fall of the Gaming Industry. Squeezing every penny they can by every detestable means possible is SOP nowadays. The Devs want to reap ALL the rewards of gambling mechanics, Esports competitions, mod creations, and any personal data they can glean from you (and much much more). Their EULAs reflect this and the only ways to counter it are to lobby your politicians and/or boycott them. Sadly, poor impulse control is one of the key demographics the industry takes advantage of which makes the latter rarely successful (exhibit A: the inevitable stream of ‘muh, my choice’ and derivatives to follow in the comments).

If you want to see racism just check the modlog. My favourite feature on Lemmy.

The US also has a right to face one’s accuser. Just not in a gladiatorial arena sadly.