There are quite a few fair points in there, it’s not as if this is some dumb nonsense.
Another impression I have is that on Reddit, idiots are mainly in large communities. But on Lemmy there is far less content, so they also troll through the all feed, which has all kinds of small communities where those people then have an outsized effect. I think that is part of the reason why the general level of discussion on Lemmy feels closer to big reddit communities than to small ones.
Additionally, if they got to experience the fascists from hexbear (not quite sure what lemmy.world does, www.hexbear.net is federated, hexbear.net is blocked…), that also doesn’t exactly make for intelligent discussions.
And finally, smaller reddit subs have far saner voting. Here on Lemmy there’s a lot more "I don’t understand this, so I’m downvoting because replying would require using my brain".
Lemmy has a lot of issues and the only reason I persevere, is because I’m a glutton for punishment and simply hate Spez even more.
Lemmy has a lot of issues and the only reason I persevere, is because I’m a glutton for punishment and simply hate Spez even more.
Lol well said and I totally agree. But I would be lying if I didn't mention that at least some of my reason for being here is to have a chance at being a part of something that has a positive impact on the world. Wanting to spite reddit is definitely a part of it, but there is also a large part of my motivation that comes from my fantasies about what Lemmy could one day become, which don't really have anything to do with reddit.
And finally, smaller reddit subs have far saner voting. Here on Lemmy there’s a lot more “I don’t understand this, so I’m downvoting because replying would require using my brain”.
Hadn't really picked up on this consciously but now that you mention it, it's absolutely true in my experience.
We are definitely still struggling with a relatively sizeable portion of toxic, disagreeable users that came here during the reddit exodus. But we have a critical mass of decent people that are currently battling through that obstacle, and as soon as we get another wave of growth, that problem should become much less prevalent, simply due to dilution.
Wanting to spite reddit is definitely a part of it, but there is also a large part of my motivation that comes from my fantasies about what Lemmy could one day become, which don't really have anything to do with reddit.
I'm a voluntarist and put up with constantly getting shit on because I think federated networks are the proper way to organize communities in real life as well.
It's way less bullshit than reddit was, and I'd rather be shit on by principled leftists anyway.
Haha you're preaching to the choir, the idea of federation has taken over my thinking a little bit. It's like those people who want to put everything on the blockchain, except I want to federate every hierarchical structure that exists 😅
I never even moderated anything before Lemmy, but it really hasn't been that bad. It helps so much to have other good users/mods to lean on, and to have faith that the platform is steadily getting better with time.
It’s way less bullshit than reddit was, and I’d rather be shit on by principled leftists anyway.
I won't lie, I did get a bit down after the hexbear federation saga, but I feel like I'm starting to get my mojo back. When I see other users and developers building things like fediseer, it renews my motivation and refreshes my attitude. Infectious positivity, what a concept!
But I would be lying if I didn’t mention that at least part of my reason for being here is to have a chance at being a part of something that has a positive impact on the world. Wanting to spite reddit is definitely a part of it, but there is also a large part of my motivation that comes from my fantasies about what Lemmy could one day become, which don’t really have anything to do with reddit.
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Very well said and some much-needed positivity after my dark POV :D You are, of course, right. It’s not all bad and horrible, and there are a lot of things I enjoy here as well, and there are good discussions.
All browsing is what really sucks for some niche communities. Until we have the ability to exclude our communities from all, these niche communities don't have a chance to survive.
There are quite a few fair points in there, it’s not as if this is some dumb nonsense.
Another impression I have is that on Reddit, idiots are mainly in large communities. But on Lemmy there is far less content, so they also troll through the all feed, which has all kinds of small communities where those people then have an outsized effect. I think that is part of the reason why the general level of discussion on Lemmy feels closer to big reddit communities than to small ones.
Additionally, if they got to experience the fascists from hexbear (not quite sure what lemmy.world does, www.hexbear.net is federated, hexbear.net is blocked…), that also doesn’t exactly make for intelligent discussions.
And finally, smaller reddit subs have far saner voting. Here on Lemmy there’s a lot more "I don’t understand this, so I’m downvoting because replying would require using my brain".
Lemmy has a lot of issues and the only reason I persevere, is because I’m a glutton for punishment and simply hate Spez even more.
Lol well said and I totally agree. But I would be lying if I didn't mention that at least some of my reason for being here is to have a chance at being a part of something that has a positive impact on the world. Wanting to spite reddit is definitely a part of it, but there is also a large part of my motivation that comes from my fantasies about what Lemmy could one day become, which don't really have anything to do with reddit.
Hadn't really picked up on this consciously but now that you mention it, it's absolutely true in my experience.
We are definitely still struggling with a relatively sizeable portion of toxic, disagreeable users that came here during the reddit exodus. But we have a critical mass of decent people that are currently battling through that obstacle, and as soon as we get another wave of growth, that problem should become much less prevalent, simply due to dilution.
I'm a voluntarist and put up with constantly getting shit on because I think federated networks are the proper way to organize communities in real life as well.
It's way less bullshit than reddit was, and I'd rather be shit on by principled leftists anyway.
Haha you're preaching to the choir, the idea of federation has taken over my thinking a little bit. It's like those people who want to put everything on the blockchain, except I want to federate every hierarchical structure that exists 😅
I never even moderated anything before Lemmy, but it really hasn't been that bad. It helps so much to have other good users/mods to lean on, and to have faith that the platform is steadily getting better with time.
I won't lie, I did get a bit down after the hexbear federation saga, but I feel like I'm starting to get my mojo back. When I see other users and developers building things like fediseer, it renews my motivation and refreshes my attitude. Infectious positivity, what a concept!
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Very well said and some much-needed positivity after my dark POV :D You are, of course, right. It’s not all bad and horrible, and there are a lot of things I enjoy here as well, and there are good discussions.
When in fact upvoting should be the default for everything you see unless you don’t think it belongs at all
This is one of the reasons I like what Beehaw does. Your options are upvote, no vote, and report. Anything worthy of a downvote is worthy of a report.
All browsing is what really sucks for some niche communities. Until we have the ability to exclude our communities from all, these niche communities don't have a chance to survive.
The devs said that they’re working on a new sorting method that pushes small communities up in the feed. I’m excited to see how it will work.
That'll be great for most communities. That's the exact opposite of what I want for a few specific ones though
OTOH, discoverability sucks and requires using external tools, so I’m not sure exclusion really helps.
While I’m at it, in case any folk metal fans read this: Please join !folkmetal@discuss.tchncs.de, I’m feeling very lonely 99% posting by myself ;)
I am already subscribed!
Throwing it in my All feed at least so other people in my instance will see it eventually next posts =)
There's a surprising amount of subscribed users even. They are all just very quiet :/
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