I feel like I’ve been kind of in the loop for most of the headlines regarding this confrontation. Yet somehow I can’t find it within myself to actually care about either side. It seems like both are lead by genocidal parties, hell bent on indoctrinating their populace into hating the other side. Yet at the same time people are able to discern which state is the good one. And some going so far as to believe that one state might even be right over the other.

So far from what I’ve read and heard, it seems that overall Isreal is just more successful militarily and is encroaching on Palestinian land, and is exhibiting control over some of it. Is that the reason why one might support Palestine? Is it the fact that Isreal has more direct power in the region and thus can easily execute its will a problematic issue for some? From what I can see, both sides have caused massive civilian casualties and neither side wants a two state solution, so neither of those reasons can be a contributing factor to side picking, right? That being said, I can’t find a reason for supporting Isreal, so does Palestine win out by default? But what of the people that support Isreal, do they do that purely because they’re an American ally? Is any of this side taking have anything to do with the insertion of Jews into the region? What is expected to be done outside of a two state solution or genocide by those taking sides?

I have a lot of questions, and I obviously don’t expect all of them to be answered in a single post. So maybe focusing on the elements you’re highly informed on would be helpful and then I can kind of piece together the details. Thank you in advance!

    • Jaytreeman@kbin.social
      2·
      6 months ago

      I’d never heard of him before, but I ended up listening to him all day at work. He seems very rational and compassionate. I owe you one

      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pubEnglish
        1·
        6 months ago

        Yeah this was the first video of his that I’ve seen, but I’ve also been going through his backlog. He does seem to have his head on straight.

        I used to be more in the “Israel has a right defend itself after they were attacked” camp, but then there was continuous reporting about aid being blocked, and people being shot when trying to collect aid, and reporters being obviously targeted, and an apparently wholesale leveling of buildings… and then I saw Shaun’s video, and well that pretty much wrapped it all up.

        I think it’s pretty clear now that Israel is using the attack as an excuse to just take over all of that territory, and they don’t care at all about killing everyone there.

        • Jaytreeman@kbin.social
          21·
          6 months ago

          I’ve been paying attention to this thing for close to 23 years.
          When I came in, it was after a long period of time where the Palestinian government was sending suicide bombers. It must’ve been horrible to live through, but you can’t change minds by making their lives harder, and you’ve got to take responsibility for your own actions.
          Shaun really won me over when early in the video he states that Israel being more powerful has more responsibility in the peace process. It’s not a revolutionary idea, but it was nice to hear.