Community for sharing Ukraine-Russia war content. Raw footage, video, and news from both sides.
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ua povorru pov - Titles describe what you see
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- No calls for violence
No censorship
Community for sharing Ukraine-Russia war content. Raw footage, video, and news from both sides.
Rules:
ua pov or ru povNo censorship
Maybe also add a flair which news is fabricated and what actually happened… A lot of “information” put on the internet isn’t “POV” but propaganda.
“Some of the propaganda contains truth” is a weird ass sentence that cannot really be framed in any other way than someone supporting said propaganda.
It’s like saying “some of the conspiracy theories contain truths”, it only works if you believe in them.
Information used to manipulate is useless, trying to cherry pick what is “true” is absurd. It’s like seeking a mouldy bread just to try to pick the edible parts, instead of trying to get a proper loaf of bread.
the label of “conspiracy theory” or “propaganda” does not automatically make every element within a given claim false.
It is common for propaganda to embed a factual kernel to gain credibility. for example, claiming “The US has conducted surveillance on foreign leaders” was once dismissed as a “conspiracy theory” but was later proven true by Snowden documents.
If all given information is true, it is truth; if not, it is propaganda, manipulation, or false information
Hmmh. It’s likely a “the only winning move is not to play their game” situation. Upside of institutions like the BBC is: in theory they should be doing fact checking, pay experts to look at it and see if it’s plausible, try to find the sources… Try to show both sides of a coin. Doesn’t always happen in practice… But if your alternative is to re-post stuff from social media or random internet sites… Well… you’re exactly in propaganda territory. That’s unfiltered where all the evil people post their fakes. Have bot armies to push narratives. Make it seem like roles are reversed… And you’re bound to lose. It’s a proper paid full time job to push propaganda online (and offline). And those people are experts and they’re resourceful (and have resources, i.e. money and access to stuff). They’ll likely outsmart you, beat you with all the manpower they have at hand, and you’re just a pawn.
And to not only write negative stuff: I somewhat trust the OSINT guys. Dunno if that’s what you’re looking for. They do a lot of quantifying stuff. And some more. Less so opinion pieces or news articles.
Mostly, you are right. If people are skeptical, if they are questioning what is true or false information. Double-checking by cross-referencing resources is always good.
That doesn’t work anymore. Modern disinformation campaigns include things like dozens of different articles or posts in many different locations. And we have strategies like flood the zone. You’ll end up cross-referencing. You’ll find 10 different resources or you’ve heard it 200 times already. And at some point you start believin’… It’s impossibly hard. At least from the perspective of an office chair and by using internet information.
I think most I can do is judge by who started it. And who keeps bombing kindergartens and apartment buildings. I’d say that’s probably the evil ones. And those happen to be the same ones who reportedly do all the coordinated misinformation.
Russia is an expansionist and imperialist country like USA and israel. Everyone is in the same page. but just someone, this information doesn’t serve someone’s agenda.