An attendee asked Cuomo directly if he or his team was in conversation with the White House about how Trump might influence the race. Cuomo didn’t directly deny it this time.
“Let’s put it this way: I knew the president very well,” Cuomo said. “I believe there’s a big piece of him that actually wants redemption in New York. He feels that he was rejected by New York. We voted for Hillary Clinton. Bill de Blasio took his name off things. So I believe there will be opportunities to actually cooperate with him. I also believe that he’s not going to want to fight with me in New York if he can avoid it.”
“We can minimize (the Sliwa) vote, because he’ll never be a serious candidate,” Cuomo told the crowd at a Hamptons fundraiser Saturday, according to audio obtained by Playbook. “And Trump himself, as well as top Republicans, will say the goal is to stop Mamdani. And you’ll be wasting your vote on Sliwa. So I feel good about that.”
Dems will always pull to the right to beat The Left. Wake up. They don’t care about or represent you.
I agree with you, but I want to point out the strategy was mostly to get moderate voter who tend to vote Republican to vote for them, not to get moderate Republicans to vote for them. Slightly different, but an important distinction. It was still stupid and failed either way though, because they had to abandon people who are more on their side to do so.
Fair point, and thank you for the clarification!
What’s the difference? If you’re a moderate voter who votes Republican, then you’re a…moderate Republican. That’s what a moderate Republican is.
I don’t know if you’re aware but you can register your party affiliation. Some states require this to vote in primaries. The graph above is for registered rebublicans, not people who tend to vote Republican.
Tankies that discourage voting are also preventing movement to the left.
When you find one of those, be sure to let them know that. I voted for Harris in 2024 and freely speak only for myself for 2028.
Fucking “tankies” - the bogeymen of .world. What a fucking lazy way to dismiss perspectives you don’t want to consider.
I’ve met several that refuse to vote in the .ml servers. If you don’t vote and discouraged others then your preventing the move back left. Voting is still one part of building our leftist movement.
Yes, thank you for the grossly misdirected scolding. Have a nice day now!
Voting is part of how we move back left. They often refuse making them part of the mechanism that prevents us from moving back left. If enough people no show for Mamdani he could still lose. Harm minimization is still important and part of how we obstruct, and they want to no show.
What am I miss directing?
The individual you seem to be directing the scolding to.
That person, whom I can assure you, you will not hear from after this, is:
Thus, your scolding is misdirected, annoying, and not whatsoever landing how or where it should.
Further, I could give a shit if you don’t like that I’m questioning the honor of dems. Not being allowed to do so is how we fucking got here. If Democrats have to pretend they haven’t been doing exactly what they’ve been doing for decades (edit: I will amend that to “at least the past 10 years”) in order to get votes in the future, they are no better than R.
On the other hand, they can stop playing for the scraps R leaves behind whenever they want.
Good, but I’m also not promoting dems. It just happens that in the dem party is where most progressives are, and I’m consistently saying we need to grow that wing where possible. By not doing that your keeping the wheel from moving left as well.
And to be clear voting is important, but just one part of the class war.
Is anybody on the left saying that people should sit out this election, though? I think that people who are typically apathetic about voting would actually show up to the polls when somebody like Mamdani is running; that is, somebody who is both good on the issues and is popular. Typically, the politicians who are good on the issues have such small budgets and are so marginalized that nobody knows who they are, so the voters who would support them just stay home. Mamdani managed to pull off the hat-trick of being both a Democratic Socialist and winning a Democratic primary.
And we need them to show up in other cases as well. At least vote green or some other third party.
Harm minimization does help; particularly in deep red areas. And if your in a solid blue place then go to primaries and support your local Mamdani as much as possible.
Most tankies will discourage others from doing this. Which means they keep us from moving back left.
What happened to InternetCitizen1?
Dead
Stooooop. He was primaried out of the race, the dem voters did that in NYC. There are absolutely shitty people on the dem side, but it’s not the entire party like the republicans right now.
Besides, it’s the people in the party that make the party. Do grass roots shit to get the people causing issues out of the party.
Like the kid that got elected to the DNC then they decided they didn’t do the voting correctly and he needed to go after they realized he really meant it when he said he was going to primary “asleep at the wheel” sitting Dems?
Yeah, what happened with that?
They kicked him out.
I thought they were going to redo the election
Nope it was just an excuse to push him out. Blatant corruption
So they’re just not going to redo it, just say “You lost because you won!” and have that be that?
I mean I knew what they were doing, I just didn’t think they were going to be this obvious about it.
I capitalized Dems because I’m using the proper noun. People who vote for that party are largely not at fault because they have been brainwashed to think Dems are actually progressive. For the most part, they’re simply not properly educated about politics and our system ensures that.
Dems, like this asshat and Pelosi, don’t give a fuck about you. Nor did Hilary. Nor did Obama. Even when they sound good, they prove themselves, by their actions, to care more about corporations and their own power than they care for the people.
What’s the alternative?
We’re seeing it in New York with Mamdani; stop voting for these old dinosaurs that don’t care about you, support DSA candidates and third party leftists who actually want to help you. It takes a shitton more work than just voting, and includes working for their campaigns as well.
100% agree. There is a lot of trolling on Lemmy to “Don’t vote dem!” because it has worked in the past. We have to say one or 2 replies to them so people understand that they’re trolling. It’s obvious by their responses.
Nobody is saying don’t vote for progressives. A lot of people are saying they will not vote for a conservative in general elections, so if the dems ratfuck progressives, they guarantee their own loss.
Every time you say “vote blue no matter who” and demand people pledge to vote dem no matter what, you help the dnc maintain the delusion they can win while trying to be republicans.
I knew we were cooked when we had people demanding I pledge to vote blue 1 month into the genocide in Gaza, a year before the election, instead of joining me in telling the dems what they need to do to win.
He’s running independent.
That doesn’t make him any less of a Dem. It only means he couldn’t win their nomination.
Is he running on the dem ticket?
Or is it a socialist running on the dem ticket due to a primary win?
The socialist isn’t a Dem. Cuomo is a Dem. This is regardless of which one won. I’m a socialist and would vote for Zohran if I lived there.
The Dems (including Cuomo) are attempting to undermine Zohran’s campaign. What about that position do you find untrue?
That Cuomo is running as an independent and that Mamdani is running as a Democrat.
Is he a dem soc? Damn right, and I’m damn happy to have him run (and win, I hope the idiots who won’t vote for him split between the jackasses running as independent).
But he’s still running as a Democrat.
And Cuomo is not running as a democrat. He’s running as an independent, making a choice to not support the person who won the democrat ticket. If that doesnt mark a split from supporting the democrat party, I really dont know what does.
Better let Dem party leaders know this, they’ve yet to publicly endorse Mamdani.
I dont believe that impacts how his name is presented on the ticket…
Bernie Sanders ran for the Democratic nomination as president twice even though he’s not part of the Democratic Party.
We’re talking past one another. I’m not going to engage further. We disagree on terminology and there doesn’t appear to be a solution to that. Good luck to you.
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The fact that I defected in favor of true progressives and socialists because Dems are centrists is part of why they are in such a dire state. They sold us out. That people like you don’t recognize that and demand more is also why they are so ineffectual and hence in a dire state.
The Democratic Party is the DNC. Not its voters. Not every person running on their ticket.
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